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Top 10 Players Never To Be World Champion?


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    Chessgod123

    Who do you think of as the 10 best Chess players never to become the World Champion? I'm not really sure about my list or order, but it would definitely include Rubinstein, Nimsowitch, and quite a few players of that kind of level. What about yours?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    Stevereti

    Maybe Reti and Larsen?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    Skwerly

    Just off the top of my head:

    Fine, Reshevsky, Bugoljubov, maybe Flohr, Rubinstein (for sure), Nimzo (arguably), Tarrasch (maybe?), Reti, Tartakower, Frederick Yates was no fish, Rudolph Spielmann, George Alan Thomas, and probably Janowski, David.

    I'm sure there are a ton more, but these are the ones that always come to my mind.  STRONG players. I mean, unbelievably strong. Just not quite strong enough for WC!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    kunduk

    Skwerly wrote:

    Just off the top of my head:

    Fine, Reshevsky, Bugoljubov, maybe Flohr, Rubinstein (for sure), Nimzo (arguably), Tarrasch (maybe?), Reti, Tartakower, Frederick Yates was no fish, Rudolph Spielmann, George Alan Thomas, and probably Janowski, David.

    I'm sure there are a ton more, but these are the ones that always come to my mind.  STRONG players. I mean, unbelievably strong. Just not quite strong enough for WC!


    many are there in the list...!!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    coach777

    Rubinstein,Tarrasch,Pillsbury,Zukertort,Maroczy,Reshevsky,Bronstein,Korchnoi,Keres,Schlechter.if-someone-wants-to-include-Nimzovich,i-won't-argue.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    pskogli

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chess_world_championship_matches

    All those who lost the match could be on this list (those who never won)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    daveyh25

    Well, there have been a number of great players who were not recognized as "official world champions".  My Top Ten would be:

    1. Morphy

    2. Rubinstein

    3. Anderssen

    4. Tarrasch

    5. Chigorin

    6. Korchnoi

    7. Bronstein

    8. Keres

    9. Carlsen (I know he's young, but rated #1 already!)

    10. Ivanchuk 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    Duffer1965

    Skwerly wrote:

    Just off the top of my head:

    Fine, Reshevsky, Bugoljubov, maybe Flohr, Rubinstein (for sure), Nimzo (arguably), Tarrasch (maybe?), Reti, Tartakower, Frederick Yates was no fish, Rudolph Spielmann, George Alan Thomas, and probably Janowski, David.

    I'm sure there are a ton more, but these are the ones that always come to my mind.  STRONG players. I mean, unbelievably strong. Just not quite strong enough for WC!


    I think Bogoljubov is out of place in a list of "unbelievably strong" players. He did get thumped by Alekhine twice in WC matches, but he was hardly even the strongest candidate available. No doubt Nimzowitsch was more worthy of a shot at the title, and I suppose would have had a much better chance if at that time they would have used some sort of candidates tournament.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    Duffer1965

    tonydal wrote:

    Klaus Junge


    One of the great "what ifs" of chess history.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    tryst

    daveyh25 wrote:

    Well, there have been a number of great players who were not recognized as "official world champions".  My Top Ten would be:

    1. Morphy

    2. Rubinstein

    3. Anderssen

    4. Tarrasch

    5. Chigorin

    6. Korchnoi

    7. Bronstein

    8. Keres

    9. Carlsen (I know he's young, but rated #1 already!)

    10. Ivanchuk 


    Nice listSmile

    In no particular order...

    Korchnoi; Bronstein; Fine; Ivanchuck; Keres; Marshall; Rubinstein; Tarrasch; Chigorin; Reshevsky

    From what I've read and the games I've played through.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    rrrttt

    1. Morphy

    2. Zukertort

    3. Korchnoi

    4. Philidor

    5. Lucena

    6. Greco

    7. Tarrasch

    9. Edward Lasker

    10 Topalov. (But he's going to be)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    rrrttt

    8. Anderssen

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #14

    tryst

    rrrttt wrote:

    1. Morphy

    2. Zukertort

    3. Korchnoi

    4. Philidor

    5. Lucena

    6. Greco

    7. Tarrasch

    9. Edward Lasker

    10 Topalov. (But he's going to be)


    Topalov was already world champion

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #15

    Caro-Kann1

    Rubenstein for sure. I think he would have beaten Lasker in 1914. It's a shame the world never got to see that match. I think it would have been a good one.

    If you include "unofficial world champions" here, I'd add Morphy (arguably the most dominant of all time), Zukertort, and Staunton.

    I'd also include Flohr, Keres, Fine, Najdorf (I think it was a travesty that he didn't get invited to the 1948 tournament after Fine declined.), and Tartakower.

    I'll give Topalov as my tenth, as I personally consider the "classical championship" line to be the legitimate title during the split title era. That said, I suspect that Topa will have to be removed from this list after the 2010 title match.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #17

    Caro-Kann1

    tonydal wrote:
    Duffer1965 wrote:
    tonydal wrote:

    Klaus Junge


    One of the great "what ifs" of chess history.


    Yes he was...GM strength at 18 (back when that was unheard of)...unfortunately the SS soon put an end to any such aspirations.  He was killed just a few weeks before the armistice.


    I must admit I'd never heard of him before. I looked him up on Wikipedia. He seems like someone that would be interesting to know more about.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #18

    Duffer1965

    10 Topalov. (But he's going to be)


    Topalov? After seeing the game where Kasparov crushed him in a highly tactical game where the Kings are hanging, i doubt he'll ever be champion. That kind of single game crushing is too much for anybody's sanity to be world champion. Despite his current ranking.


    While it is hardly conclusive, the videos of Topalov's manager apparently sending him signals from the gallery make me suspicious that even his current ranking may be "enhanced."

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #19

    Ziryab

    Topalov is certainly one of the top players never to be World Champion. I cannot emphasize enough that he has never been the World Champion.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #20

    chessoholicalien

    Korchnoi, Keres, Pillsbury, Rubinstein, Tarrasch, Larsen, Geller, Stein


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