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Understanding Bobby Fischer – Part 1 : The Early Years.


  • 13 months ago · Quote · #61

    niceforkinmove

    sapientdust wrote:

    It shows that at 18, he was already anti-semitic, homophobic, and sexist, and was extremely naive psychologically in not realizing the obvious effects his words would have. Fischer also reveals in this interview an obsession with class and status and the trappings of success that probably is a result of the scars resulting from growing up terribly poor.

    My own personal observation through life is that poor kids often want to claim and show off as if they are wealthy, with fancy clothes, jewelery, cars etc.  

    Rich kids often want to claim that they are poor and have it rough.  Such things are relative.  So for example the well off kid will pretty much always have someone wealthier to point to and be able to justify his claims he has it rough.    

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #62

    QueenTakesKnightOOPS

    I've just had a couple of books & videos on Bobby arrive, I'm digesting them now & so far not a lot of new info is comming to light but as I dig further into his life patterns are emerging. I've never tried to look at Bobby in this way before & I think there is much to be learned from it. It would be nice to have gained & shared a new perspective on the man & what drove him. I hope we can debunk the myths & present a balanced view of the facts by the time this thread is done.

    Any new perspectives or info would be most welcome

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #63

    niceforkinmove

    bean_Fischer wrote:

    .... Fischer.....

    He had personality but not mental problem. We don't know to what degree he had mental instability. I think it was not serious.

     

    You seem to be waffleing. Smile

     

    That said I never heard any good analysis that Bobby Fischer was a narcissist.  

    Ive read the article quoted about possible paranoid disorder as well as being on the autistic spectrum.  (for example Bobby couldn't stand even small noises, seemed not to understand joking, had a very literal understanding of things including contracts etc.  and was of course socially awkward.) 

    But narcissism is a new one.  Where is the analysis on that claim?  

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #64

    42FlamingZombies

    Bobby wasn't a narcissist - he was paranoid and worked hard to totally seperate himself from his poor background.

    I also am starting to suspect that he had what was once called Failed Attachment Disorder steming from not bonding with his mother at a young age. This bears out in inability to form emotional attachments with other humans as one grows up if the condition is not treated.......

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #65

    niceforkinmove

    Lots of views given in this documentary.  Draw your own conclusions.  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLM9bgE3tY

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #66

    sapientdust

    chessmicky wrote:

    For anyone interested in Bobby Fischer, one book you should definitely own is "Russians versus Fischer." http://www.amazon.com/Russians-Versus-Fischer-Everyman-Chess/dp/1857443802 

    The Soviets spotted Fischer as a threat to chess supremacy when he first vivited Russia as a teenager. This book details their efforts to deal with the "Fischer Problem" over the years. The book written reports by all the top Soviet GMs, giving their personal impressions of Fischer and their assessment of his strengths and few weaknesses. It beomes apparent that some of them enjoyed very friendly relations with Fischer, while others, particularly Botvinnik--who comes across as an extremely vindictive old man--really disliked hiim. All of their chess and psychological analysis illuminates aspects of Fischer's play and personality in new ways. There are also many well annotated games, showing his clashes with all the Soviet players. A great read!

    I received this book in the mail today, and it was so engrossing that I read it one long sitting (all the prose and the game commentary, but not going through the moves carefully). It's a really wonderful, unique book. There is more analysis of Fischer's chess in that single book than in all the other books I've ever read about Fischer combined. It was fascinating to read what the Soviet players were writing privately about Fischer in the '60s and leading up to the match in '72. I really recommend the book to anybody with an interest in Fischer or chess history of his era!


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