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where can you improve your chess skills more? in playing blitz or playing long games?

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13th May 2009, 09:17pm
#1
by 64_block_square
Calamba City Philippines
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 106

where can you improve your chess skills more? in playing blitz or playing long games?

13th May 2009, 09:19pm
#2
by RosarioVampire
Singapore
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 325

it depends on u..
but i'd vote blitz. more games = more experience

13th May 2009, 09:27pm
#3
by bondiggity
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 1769

Long games are better, enough time to think and plan, and then after the game see why your plans did or didn't work...etc. 

 

Blitz games are more of a regurgitation of what you already know. 

13th May 2009, 09:43pm
#4
by richie_and_oprah
Marie Byrd Land United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 1861

Well, if you want to be better at blitz, I would play blitz.

14th May 2009, 02:22pm
#5
by Jeremy841
Canada
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 189

I prefeer correspondance games, mostly because of the longer time you can have and the analysis you can do.

14th May 2009, 02:30pm
#6
by RainbowRising
London United Kingdom
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 6518

Another useless comment by the simplton.

Blitz games are for practising what you already know, longer games are for improving, especially if you study a new opening, and then try it out in one of your games, trying to make things work will give you a good understanding, win or lose.

14th May 2009, 02:40pm
#7
by richie_and_oprah
Marie Byrd Land United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 1861
RainbowRising wrote:

Another useless comment by the simplton.

Blitz games are for practising what you already know, longer games are for improving, especially if you study a new opening, and then try it out in one of your games, trying to make things work will give you a good understanding, win or lose.


Did you know one way to spot people that are overly sensitive and easily threatened is their inability to spell simple, yet usually the most critical, words in their feeble ad hominem attacks?  Laughing

 

Lighten-up dude, no one is comin' after you and your lucky charms there at the end of the rainbow, laddy.  What would Richie Blackmore do?  WWRBD?  He would go write some power chord anthem, that's what.  Wink

14th May 2009, 02:43pm
#8
by ilikeflags
downton abbey England
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 11285
richie_and_oprah wrote:

Well, if you want to be better at blitz, I would play blitz.


my thoughts exactly. 

blitz teaches me to F around and avoid results while my opponet's timer runs off.  online teaches me to use my pieces well and to play for checkmate.  at least i think it does--it's supposed to.

14th May 2009, 03:08pm
#9
by atomichicken
United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 1285
richie_and_oprah wrote:

Well, if you want to be better at blitz, I would play blitz.


IMAO If I wanted to get better at blitz I'd actually play more long games than blitz games! Because I think the ability to play good blitz comes with being a good player in general and I think most will become better all round by playing more longer games.. All of the great Blitz players I know of have all been amazing long players by trade (Fischer, Capablanca, Nakamura to a lesser extent)..

14th May 2009, 03:25pm
#10
by RainbowRising
London United Kingdom
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 6518
richie_and_oprah wrote:
RainbowRising wrote:

Another useless comment by the simplton.

Blitz games are for practising what you already know, longer games are for improving, especially if you study a new opening, and then try it out in one of your games, trying to make things work will give you a good understanding, win or lose.


Did you know one way to spot people that are overly sensitive and easily threatened is their inability to spell simple, yet usually the most critical, words in their feeble ad hominem attacks? 

 

Lighten-up dude, no one is comin' after you and your lucky charms there at the end of the rainbow, laddy.  What would Richie Blackmore do?  WWRBD?  He would go write some power chord anthem, that's what. 


Actually, when he does use powerchords, he uses INVERTED power chords.

14th May 2009, 03:36pm
#11
by atomichicken
United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 1285
RainbowRising wrote:

Another useless comment by the simplton.

Blitz games are for practising what you already know, longer games are for improving, especially if you study a new opening, and then try it out in one of your games, trying to make things work will give you a good understanding, win or lose.


 

 

Now I said I wouldn't say anything next time you utter something like this after you complained when I was making my feelings about you known, but this just takes the biscuit. To someone who's always attacking people left right and centre that are what he apparently believes insulting people who are just trying to learn (you're usually wrong about that aswell anyway) I have to once again point out your utter hypocrisy and I'll be delighted the day you leave this site.

"I can cope with people being rude, but I try to help them and make them see that there is merit in being polite."- RainbowRising.

14th May 2009, 03:49pm
#12
by goldendog
beertopia United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 9108

Playing blitz will sharpen up your blitz techniques, not much more than that. Handy in severe time trouble and another way to practice and run through some openings.

14th May 2009, 03:59pm
#13
by morphytyme
gary United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 2

I guess it depends on what your goal is ,if you want to get better at blitz then by all means play blitz. If on the other hand your wanting to play high lvl chess then I suggest you play slow meaningful games where it gets a bit deeper than 2 move tactics.

14th May 2009, 04:04pm
#14
by BlackWaive
Michigan United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 496

I use Lightning Tactics (~3-10 seconds) to improve my Blitz performance.

I use Blitz Tactics (~3-10 minutes) to improve my Standard performance.

I don't play games for the sake of improvement. If I did, I would just repeat the same mistakes over and over. Nothing of value would be gained.

14th May 2009, 04:44pm
#15
by alec94x
Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1224

I'd say 60-97 minute games are best the quality of your opponents matters if you want to benefit seek out the strongest players you can find at your local Chess Club you'll get beaten like a drum and you'll lose many games but you'll become a better and sharper Player and improve your skills and technique.

Good luck!

16th May 2009, 05:35am
#16
by atomichicken
United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 1285
atomichicken wrote:
RainbowRising wrote:

Another useless comment by the simplton.

Blitz games are for practising what you already know, longer games are for improving, especially if you study a new opening, and then try it out in one of your games, trying to make things work will give you a good understanding, win or lose.


 

 

Now I said I wouldn't say anything next time you utter something like this after you complained when I was making my feelings about you known, but this just takes the biscuit. To someone who's always attacking people left right and centre that are what he apparently believes insulting people who are just trying to learn (you're usually wrong about that aswell anyway) I have to once again point out your utter hypocrisy and I'll be delighted the day you leave this site.

"I can cope with people being rude, but I try to help them and make them see that there is merit in being polite."- RainbowRising.


What do you say to that then punk? I notice you have a rather convenient habit of leaving when you have something to answer to.

16th May 2009, 05:45am
#17
by AfafBouardi
Austin United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 3240

you're so mean richie...at least tell him which word he misspelled.  Tongue out

atomic...let that poor dear rest.  he's fatigued from trying to save the planet before bedtime.

16th May 2009, 05:48am
#18
by AfafBouardi
Austin United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 3240

Oh and to the original poster (sorry to bring our grudges here), I have found in my limited experience that you can't really be any good at blitz until you have at least a very strong openings foundation a fair amount of long play, and some good tactics practice.  After that, I suppose you could practice blitz to get better at blitz.  But before that, it's like spinning your wheels in the sand/mud.  

16th May 2009, 05:55am
#19
by Skepticus
Zacatecas Mexico
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 102

Maybe I don't have anough qualifications to air an informed oppinion. But all that I heve seen is that top blitz players are also top long chess games players. Maybe the correct path is to be good at long chess games first, for be a good blitz player.

22nd May 2009, 12:33am
#20
by The_Petshop_Boy
Pune India
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 1

Playing long at the begining so that the left side of our brain gets comfortable with the moves, and eventually playing blitz !!!

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