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Which Elite Chess Player of All Time Has the Most Natural Talent?


  • 7 months ago · Quote · #281

    dzikus

    TetsuoShima napisał:
    dzikus wrote:
    AlxMaster napisał:
    dzikus wrote:
    AlxMaster napisał:

    Houdini 3. No one else beats my ask so naturally badly.

    Try Stockfish 4. It plays more natural and easier to understand chess. And it can beat H3 badly 

    Since when? And prove please because until some months ago Houdini3 was the best. But I will se if I download and test it myself anyway.

    Stockfish 4 was released like in August, it is 60 elo points stronger than SF3 and the code has been constantly being improved.

    I ran several blitz (4|2) matches between SF4 and H3, Stockfish is able to lead by 3 points in 10 games.

    I also gave them an endgame to finish - in blitz time controls SF4 won it and H3 went into the drawing line.

    What I observed is that SF4 achieves greater depth faster which enables more exact evaluation and makes it a good blitz player.

    I never tried a slow time control match between the two so cannot tell if SF4 is better under those circumstances. Yet I predict the next or subsequent release will be world's strongest engine.


    is it only in practical play or do i also get faster analysis with it?

    If you give the same position to analyse you get greater depth faster from SF4 than H3. Usually you can get depth 30 in reasonable time with SF4 and in some endgames it can reach 40 or more almost instantly.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #282

    AlxMaster

    dzikus wrote:
    TetsuoShima napisał:
    dzikus wrote:
    AlxMaster napisał:
    dzikus wrote:
    AlxMaster napisał:

    Houdini 3. No one else beats my ask so naturally badly.

    Try Stockfish 4. It plays more natural and easier to understand chess. And it can beat H3 badly 

    Since when? And prove please because until some months ago Houdini3 was the best. But I will se if I download and test it myself anyway.

    Stockfish 4 was released like in August, it is 60 elo points stronger than SF3 and the code has been constantly being improved.

    I ran several blitz (4|2) matches between SF4 and H3, Stockfish is able to lead by 3 points in 10 games.

    I also gave them an endgame to finish - in blitz time controls SF4 won it and H3 went into the drawing line.

    What I observed is that SF4 achieves greater depth faster which enables more exact evaluation and makes it a good blitz player.

    I never tried a slow time control match between the two so cannot tell if SF4 is better under those circumstances. Yet I predict the next or subsequent release will be world's strongest engine.


    is it only in practical play or do i also get faster analysis with it?

    If you give the same position to analyse you get greater depth faster from SF4 than H3. Usually you can get depth 30 in reasonable time with SF4 and in some endgames it can reach 40 or more almost instantly.

    I will download and play both on slow time controls to see who wins.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #283

    cptal

     When Spassky was asked, what does Chess mean to you, he replied, "Chess is my LIFE"...

     When Fischer was asked, what does Chess mean to you, he replied, "Chess is LIFE"... 

    It is sad when Chess becomes the only reason "LIVE/LIFE"..

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #284

    dzikus

    cptal napisał:

     When Spassky was asked, what does Chess mean to you, he replied, "Chess is my LIFE"...

     When Fischer was asked, what does Chess mean to you, he replied, "Chess is LIFE"... 

    It is sad when Chess becomes the only reason "LIVE/LIFE"..

    Kasprov went further and titled his book "How life imitates chess"

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #285

    TetsuoShima

    i dont understand why people play chess in the first place if they dont honor it

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #286

    bean_Fischer

    cptal wrote:

     When Spassky was asked, what does Chess mean to you, he replied, "Chess is my LIFE"...

     When Fischer was asked, what does Chess mean to you, he replied, "Chess is LIFE"... 

    It is sad when Chess becomes the only reason "LIVE/LIFE"..

    Do you mean, Spassky, Fischer were sad? They were world champions. Fischer had many citizenships he could get. Iceland gave him citizenship because he has been a WC. Now we know Fischer was Icelander.

    They made thousands and millions of $$$$.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #287

    TetsuoShima

    Man i wish i had different citizenships

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #288

    Here_Is_Plenty

    Houdini.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #289

    RussMTL

    Probably a toss-up between Capablanca and Sultan Khan for me. Tal would get show just for the sheer brilliance of his best sacrificial attacks.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #290

    fabelhaft

    I wonder if Spassky ever said that chess was his life, as is claimed above. That sounds much more like Korchnoi.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #291

    nameno1had

    We all dedicate ourselves so something. You can make yourself a slave to not burning any bridges and being average at many things...

    ...is specialization really so sad ? If life had no specialists, many things would be far less special.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #292

    Spiritbro77

    There's a big difference between being a specialist and being myopic.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #293

    nameno1had

    Spiritbro77 wrote:

    There's a big difference between being a specialist and being myopic.

    Certainly some specialists are open minded...

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #294

    mopmopmopmop

    crtexxx wrote:
    MrDamonSmith wrote:

    Borislav Ivanov.

     

    Yeah, this guy is the best.

    His mutation allows him to sometimes channel the power of the engine gods through his brain.

    lol!

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #295

    duck29

    stockfish 4! stockfish 4 cant lose, it can only draw and win

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #296

    AlxMaster

    duck29 wrote:

    stockfish 4! stockfish 4 cant lose, it can only draw and win

    Some players find Tal's games exciting, I don't.

    A computer that can't lose? Now THAT is fascinating!

    Can't wait to see Houdini3's ask being kicked.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #297

    SubNY

    AlxMaster wrote:
     

     

    Can't wait to see Houdini3's ask being kicked.

    ASK and thou shall receive

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #298

    mike_tal

    AlxMaster wrote:
    duck29 wrote:

    stockfish 4! stockfish 4 cant lose, it can only draw and win

    Some players find Tal's games exciting, I don't.

    A computer that can't lose? Now THAT is fascinating!

    Can't wait to see Houdini3's ask being kicked.

    You need to go over more Tal games, learn more about chess, or both


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