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Wht Bobby Fischer would have beaten Kasparov.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #141

    Spadesplayer

    "Bobby is the most misunderstood, misquoted celebrity walking the face of the earth."  --Yasser Seirawan

      is the most misunderstood, misquoted celebrity walking the face of this earth. -- Yasser Seirawan 

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #142

    royalbishop

    @Spadesplayer

    Thanks for the info.... i had no idea!

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #143

    indurain

    SmyslovFan wrote:

    Fischer-Karpov 1975 is perhaps the greatest chess match that never was. It's really hard to say who was better in 1975.

    By 1977, Karpov was clearly better than Fischer was in 1972, and by 1981, he was even better. The only hope Fischer would have had in those later matches was Karpov's lack of stamina.

    Fischer was a great chess player who inspired generations to pick up the game. But as with all great chess players, his games were studied and the next generation learned the lessons he taught!

    It is complete supposition on my part but if Fischer had played and won aginst Karpov in 1975 who knows what would have become of Karpov?

    My own view is that even without 3 years of top class chess, the aura of Fischer's invincibility from 1971-1972 era was still a factor in 1975 (heck it's still a factor now in how highly RJF is still rated).

    I remember that time very well. Remember 1975 was long before mass communication (internet, widespread papparzzi, social media), so the Fischer myth was very much intact. At the time there was huge media speculation about Bobby in the run up to 1975. So his reputation and aura were still intact if he had to face Karpov and I believe that this allied with his chess ability might have seen him prevail in 1975.

    In fact even in 1976 when the BBC started a TV series called The Master Game it was rumoured that Bobby was almost tempted out of seclusion. How true this was is anyones guess.

    So what would have become of Karpov had he lost to Fischer?

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #144

    konhidras

    indurain wrote:
    SmyslovFan wrote:

    Fischer-Karpov 1975 is perhaps the greatest chess match that never was. It's really hard to say who was better in 1975.

    By 1977, Karpov was clearly better than Fischer was in 1972, and by 1981, he was even better. The only hope Fischer would have had in those later matches was Karpov's lack of stamina.

    Fischer was a great chess player who inspired generations to pick up the game. But as with all great chess players, his games were studied and the next generation learned the lessons he taught!

    It is complete supposition on my part but if Fischer had played and won aginst Karpov in 1975 who knows what would have become of Karpov?

    My own view is that even without 3 years of top class chess, the aura of Fischer's invincibility from 1971-1972 era was still a factor in 1975 (heck it's still a factor now in how highly RJF is still rated).

    I remember that time very well. Remember 1975 was long before mass communication (internet, widespread papparzzi, social media), so the Fischer myth was very much intact. At the time there was huge media speculation about Bobby in the run up to 1975. So his reputation and aura were still intact if he had to face Karpov and I believe that this allied with his ability might have seen him prevail in 1975.

    In fact even in 1976 when the BBC started a TV series called The Master Game it was rumoured that Bobby was almost tempted out of seclusion. How true this was is anyones guess.

    So what would have become of Karpov had he lost to Fischer?

    He'll probably become a french citizen too.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #145

    NM Reb

    I truly dont understand why people would assume Karpov was better than Fischer ? The fact is that Karpov's peak rating never surpassed Fischer's peak rating and this even though Karpov played for decades after Fischer quit AND Karpov had players with ratings closer to his own to gain rating points from than Fischer had and there were also more elite RR tournaments in Karpov's time than in Fischer's . 

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #146

    konhidras

    "only he who never plays never loses" A. Karpov

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #147

    Spadesplayer

    Reb wrote:

    I truly dont understand why people would assume Karpov was better than Fischer ? The fact is that Karpov's peak rating never surpassed Fischer's peak rating and this even though Karpov played for decades after Fischer quit AND Karpov had players with ratings closer to his own to gain rating points from than Fischer had and there were also more elite RR tournaments in Karpov's time than in Fischer's . 

    I have to agree with Reb.  When you adjust for rating inflation as figured here... http://members.shaw.ca/redwards1/ rectified ratings show Fischer above both K's.  Fischer had the highest peak, but for a briefer time.  Kasparov had second highest, but for a longer time.  Karpov third highest, but for even longer.  WCC matches take place over a relatively short period of time.  The player with the highest peak that encompasses that time-frame should win.  That player was Fischer.  Who was the greatest?  That's another question altogether. 

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #148

    konhidras

    "Although Gary Kasparov had managed to fight his way to the top of the chess world by bamboozling many of his opponents with dynamic sacrifices, he found that this style was inadequate against the coolness and precision of Anatoly Karpov" GM Daniel King

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