I just feel sorry for Bobby's legacy. He deserved more.
Bobby Fischer's legacy is the beauty and quality of the games he left. They are also games infused with a clarity so strong that even a patzer like me can learn from them. 'Er spielt so einfach', as GM Suetin, Petrosian's second in the 1971 Candidates' Match, said - 'he plays so simply'. The contrast between Bobby Fischer's clear and beautiful style as chess player and the horrible nonsensical chaos which was, or became, the fact of Bobby Fischer-the-rest-of-him is very very sad. But it's sad, it's not an issue needing a call to action to defend him, especially not in a world-wide and major enterprise like chess.com. I think Erik's handling of this question is open, intelligent, thoughtful and absolutely right.
I agree too. Erik's correct.
I apologise for arguing vehemently on this. I was mistaken. It's alright - maybe I was sentimental and thought that I'd argue for Bobby (you know he'd want someone to, haha). But it's all good.
To pull a Cheater_1: "I RECAAAANT!!"
CHESS 960 it is.
lol :)
Thanks. I'll have to try it at least once!!
Gothic Chess next please.
http://www.gothicchess.com/
I think this is the first example of Godwin's Law I've seen on chess.com so far.
It is not easy to understand life and the motivational drives behind one's action in later life. I guess it needs 50 to 60 years of living and experience to be more understanding.
One not needs to judge but rather to try to understand the behavior of others.
What if one of your family members go nuts?
His she/him to blame for it?
What if a chemical imbalance drives a person to say things that are absolutely unacceptable or act like that of a 9 year old?
Do you reject them for this?
In my book we should always acknowledge a person for her/his contribution was before their mental condition.
It is not an excuse but a mere fact.
What if you where separated from your father as I was at the age of 2 years old as Fischer was?
Do you have any clue on the profound bearing it has on your life? Unlikely.
Do not judge unless you have wore the shoes.
http://bobbyfischer.net/bobby35.html
What is important is what a person contributed to our life as in chess Bobby Fisher did .
Unless someone has facts about his reasons for his outburts and irreverent position against USA and the Jews, I then say forget it.
And last but not least, I wish that anyone on this site stop and I mean stop comparing anyone to Hitler.
Including Bobby Fischer vs Hitler.
Do you realize what you are doing really or is it simply a lack of history knowledge about what Hitler did?
Bobby Fischer never killed anyone, not even one out of thousands if not millions of Jews under the Hitler banner.
He was a pussy voicing something that affected him.
He was revolted because of his past and not being all there said somethings that was reported as beeing out of place.
So again I say call it Fisher Random the 959 game and forget all of the cynical game conatioms as how it shoud be named.
Do you call me Paul or Paul 211 or Paul 7z. Who cares my name is Paul and my identity here is Paul 211 as Paul name was already used.
Umm doesn't anyone else find the last of Erik's arguments for using Chess 960 instead of Fischer Random 959/960 compelling. It's SOOO much easier to say! This extra syllable is also my theory for why chess is more popular than checkers (Clearly flawless reasoning).
Yu tell us to forgive Fishcher but then you do the exact same thing to Hitler. Hitler had soem great accomplishments too. Most people forget that. I'm not saying that Hitler was an overall good influence on the world - he clearly was a very bad one. But not all of his actions are bad. I don't condemn Fischer as a bad person. Neither do I condemn Hitler as a bad person. I'm just not in a position to condemn people. However, I can quite easily and correctly condemn actions, regardless of who performed them. Hitler's actions against the Jews were wrong. So were Fischer's words.
Also, Hitler didn't actually kill Jews either, excepting casualties in WWI that really had nothing to do with them being Jews. He promoted their deaths, which is (debatably) just as (or nearly just as) reprehensible as killing them. Fischer promoted their deaths too, just not from a position of equivalent power.
What about chess 959? Would relateto Bobby Fischer and exclude the one current variation that we all play?
I had to look up Godwin's Law. Interesting read.
Paul, sure Chess 959 is fine and indeed more logical considering my assumption that Chess 960 can't actually use the standard chess position, but there is no point in preaching this argument to Erik and chess.com when it would be almost idiotic to make up their own name for a variation of chess already established by the Chess governing body with a different name.
The world has decided on?
And who is the world?
Is the world correct in it`s assumption?
The plurality of the numbers almost never make a statement a reality that is an absolute truth.
No, but language has meaning because people agree on words and their meanings. Here the world is the people who hold tournaments of the game, including the Chesss960 World Championship. The world didn't assume that Chess960 is the game's name - it agreed that that was the name.
So be it!
I love the 960 games..I have never heard of this before..Thanks for setting this up! Great fun..... Will we be able to play group challenges at 960 soon, or can we already do it somehow?
Thanks
wer do u find the chess960 open seeks?
I'd also like to know this.
They're with the other open seeks. If you don't see anything labelled as 960, then there aren't any open 960 seeks.
Please clarify castling for me?
Is it only possible when the King and Rook are on the correct squares?
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