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3rd November 2007, 06:26am
#1
by AlvinMcMath
chatsworth, ga United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 27

i hate it when i get beat & the opposing player doesn't tell me when or why i lost. 

3rd November 2007, 06:50am
#2
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 2247
You can always post the game in the Game Analysis forum. I'm sure plenty of people will lend a hand on helping find when and why you lost.
12th November 2007, 09:41am
#3
by Reservesmonkey
Azerbaijan
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 344
I would feel uncomfortable with an opponent reviewing my loss.
12th November 2007, 03:02pm
#4
by ketchuplover
West Bend,WI United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 456
AlvinMcMath wrote:

i hate it when i get beat & the opposing player doesn't tell me when or why i lost. 


Did you ask them to help you?


13th November 2007, 07:02pm
#5
by freezenyr
central region of New York state United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2238
Reservesmonkey wrote: I would feel uncomfortable with an opponent reviewing my loss.

 correct. also, I like reviewing my losses.  


15th November 2007, 06:24am
#6
by Ziryab
Washington United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 240
AlvinMcMath wrote:

i hate it when i get beat & the opposing player doesn't tell me when or why i lost. 


 I would offer this information if and only if it was specifically requested.


22nd November 2007, 06:58am
#7
by AlvinMcMath
chatsworth, ga United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 27
Loomis wrote: You can always post the game in the Game Analysis forum. I'm sure plenty of people will lend a hand on helping find when and why you lost.

i learned to play a long time ago; until fairly recently there was no such thing as a GA forum.

 

22nd November 2007, 07:09am
#8
by Markle
Buckhannon,Wv United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 252

 

 I am not sure why you would get upset with someone for not telling you why you lost unless you asked for their advice and they refused. I would gladly offer any advice to my opponent after a game if he asked, but to just assume he wants to know why he lost and pointing it out to him can cause some ill feelings if he thinks you are just being a jerk.

22nd November 2007, 07:22am
#9
by ancientpistol
michigan United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 355
if you ask for game analysis im sure lots of people would step up and co-operate but their not obliged to do this and it shouldnt be held against them if they dont want to. if you go back and study the game move by move it shouldnt be too difficult to see where things went wrong
22nd November 2007, 07:22am
#10
by AlvinMcMath
chatsworth, ga United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 27
ketchuplover wrote: AlvinMcMath wrote:

i hate it when i get beat & the opposing player doesn't tell me when or why i lost. 


Did you ask them to help you?


yes, which why i'm better then i used to be. i guess my real complaint is watching someone else lose, and the winner does nothing but laugh/

 

22nd November 2007, 07:32am
#11
by AlvinMcMath
chatsworth, ga United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 27
ketchuplover wrote: AlvinMcMath wrote:

i hate it when i get beat & the opposing player doesn't tell me when or why i lost. 


Did you ask them to help you?


yes, & i'm better for it; my peeve concerns winners who simply gloat, & then  challenge u to another game- i.e., it's all about demonstrating superiority & has nothing to do w/developing better opponents,

22nd November 2007, 07:38am
#12
by AlvinMcMath
chatsworth, ga United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 27
Reservesmonkey wrote: I would feel uncomfortable with an opponent reviewing my loss.

u review it anyway, i assume. I feel uncomfortable losing also, but i want to know why and WHEN the crucial error occured.

22nd November 2007, 07:59am
#13
by ccarring
United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 15
AlvinMcMath wrote: ketchuplover wrote: AlvinMcMath wrote:

i hate it when i get beat & the opposing player doesn't tell me when or why i lost. 


Did you ask them to help you?


yes, & i'm better for it; my peeve concerns winners who simply gloat, & then  challenge u to another game- i.e., it's all about demonstrating superiority & has nothing to do w/developing better opponents,


 That's not what you said at first-say what you mean.  I have not encountered anyone on this site who has gloated afterward and I believe I have upward of forty losses.


22nd November 2007, 08:21am
#14
by AlvinMcMath
chatsworth, ga United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 27
Markle wrote:

 

 I am not sure why you would get upset with someone for not telling you why you lost unless you asked for their advice and they refused. I would gladly offer any advice to my opponent after a game if he asked, but to just assume he wants to know why he lost and pointing it out to him can cause some ill feelings if he thinks you are just being a jerk.


it's only my opinion, but acting like a jerk actually makes ur opponents better; they'll even read books  so they  can give u ur due

 

22nd November 2007, 08:27am
#15
by xbigboy
Minnesota United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 2151
When I'm in Zugzwang.
22nd November 2007, 08:28am
#16
by AlvinMcMath
chatsworth, ga United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 27
ccarring wrote: AlvinMcMath wrote: ketchuplover wrote: AlvinMcMath wrote:

i hate it when i get beat & the opposing player doesn't tell me when or why i lost. 


Did you ask them to help you?


yes, & i'm better for it; my peeve concerns winners who simply gloat, & then  challenge u to another game- i.e., it's all about demonstrating superiority & has nothing to do w/developing better opponents,


 That's not what you said at first-say what you mean.  I have not encountered anyone on this site who has gloated afterward and I believe I have upward of forty losses.


i'm not talking about this site- i'm talking OTB. remember (or learn) i'm before computers playing chess

22nd November 2007, 02:46pm
#17
by AlvinMcMath
chatsworth, ga United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 27
ancientpistol wrote: if you ask for game analysis im sure lots of people would step up and co-operate but their not obliged to do this and it shouldnt be held against them if they dont want to. if you go back and study the game move by move it shouldnt be too difficult to see where things went wrong

i know, but i could get that same info from a computer. i want to know where/when the victor thinks i lost it.

25th November 2007, 11:23am
#18
by roshak12345
United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 68
what about when you are playing online and while you play you talk to your opponent, and then if he makes a nice move such as a fork it goes from a light conversation to him gloating about it.  1) it is in bad taste 2)it ruins the conversation, and 3) you probably won't play them anymore. Keep the in-game conversation fun and play nice, people!!
25th November 2007, 11:50am
#19
by slowhand
Mississippi Pinebelt United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 141
During a game on another site acouple of months ago while I carelessly gave up a piece and followed with a comment that maybe I should have gone to bed instead of playing that game.  Really just laughing at myself.  The comment back was, "well go to bed loser".  I had never played this person and no prior acquaintance.  I was stunned but became resolute!  Won by checkmate < 10 moves later and left without another comment from either.  Perhaps my most gratifying win.  Work harder! Study, practice, ask for help, whatever....Your game is your responsibility.
25th November 2007, 12:04pm
#20
by roshak12345
United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 68
JuliusH wrote: I think it depends. If they're just being jokey that cool of course. I played a game on here and my opponent messaged me "RESIGN". I didn't appreciate that. I'll even message people a one word comment if they make a good move, or if they miss something I'll say "I would've been in a bad position if ....". Because I figure it's a critique, but delivered in nice packaging.

yeah I know what you're saying. I was playing someone who forked me and I just said, "nice move".  He somehow took that the wrong way, and started "yelling" at me. I don't have a problem with talking about the game, it's when people say things like "great move moron" that are unnessecary but make a win sooo much better  :-P

 

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