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"BLUNDERS"- Dec 1 - TOPIC # 2: Blitz by the Best?!?


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    BorgQueen

    Reply here or somewhere else?  I'm confused.

    I think quality longer games should be studied differently to quality blitz games.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    BorgQueen

    Are there links to download these somewhere I've missed?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    ChessMarkstheSpot

      BQ - Here is the link for TWIC.  The World Blitz Championship PGN is available about 1/3 down the page.  I hope that is what you're looking for.  Cool  OR you can always go to Downloads/Database of Games and my upload is there along with the Tal Memorial  Smile

       -Mark

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    BorgQueen

    Thanks Mark, got 'em :-)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    ChessMarkstheSpot

       No problemovitch   Cool

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    Narz

    Personally I think blitz is bad for my game.  If you're a Master or higher & have a good memory perhaps blitz can be good.  For me it just feels lilke a waste of time.  The best tactics (attacks, defenses) I am not going to be able to fully analzye in a blitz game, so if you're playing game after game not analyzing tactics how can that be good for your game?  And of course my opponents are not going to be playing the best moves either.  In blitz player's under-2000) attacks are so crude, saccing pieces, thrusting pawns forward, how is this going to help them in a real game where the opponent actually has time to think about the best defensive plan?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #9

    LaskerFan

    Is Blitz good or bad? Both.

    Blitz allows all sorts of funky opening preparations to triumph, which may not be fully sound, but their sheer complications defeat the opponent under time pressure.

    Blitz also allows the position sense or chess intuition to develop more - where full calculations are not possible, and players depend more on their gut feelings and experience, as seen in the games of Carlsen and Aronian (the reason Aronian also excels in 960).

     

    But playing too much blitz kills the tendency to analyze deeply. It is definitely detrimental to learning players, and should only be entertained for - yes, pleasure or entertainment purpose only.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #11

    ChessMarkstheSpot

       I've only recently starting getting involved in blitz on my CM 10 game, even started a separate league for it. It's great to watch and analyze at the end, but my problem is I can't think that quickly that far ahead at that kind of pace. It turns into me just moving pieces around. Although I am +0/=3/-1 at it so far  Undecided

       -Mark

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #12

    Narz

    dpruess wrote:

    playing blitz is generally bad for your game, but playing through the blitz games of aronian and carlsen and radjabov... good for your game :)


    but playing thru the blitz games of aronian and carlsen and radjabov in less than 5 minutes... not so useful for your game Wink

    Fezzik wrote:
    David,

    If you take a look at your own live chess history, you will find loads of blitz games. And in those games, you've played loads of titled players. If we go over to ICC, we'll see loads of top-flight GMs playing blitz every day.

    Yes, blitz can be bad for chess, but mostly because it's so addictive. But generally, it's great for our game because we enjoy it and it helps to keep our interest in the game alive! Of course, too much of anything isn't good. But the old saw that blitz is bad for our game has been debunked by the fact that just about every top player has played 1000s of hours of blitz!


    In my own live chess history (here & on FICS) I've played lots of blitz & lightning but that hasn't helped me improve much, it's just fun.  I don't think anyone at the top got good by playing blitz, they got good via other avenues & just play blitz for fun.  Maybe they get something out of it now because they're understanding is already so deep.  I see lots of players in parks & coffehouses who've played blitz for decades & not improved.

    Fezzik wrote:
    Anand used to play blitz in his standard games!

    Maybe this one? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSQRK-HsbfA Wink


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