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Can U really Win a Chess Game ?


  • 11 months ago · Quote · #1

    bcoburn2

    It's been my experience that "wins" are the result of weak moves by your opponent. Sooo you don't win. Your opponent looses.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #2

    Scottrf

    They aren't mutually exclusive.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #3

    finalunpurez

    Hmm you are right!

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #4

    Timothy_P

    By definition, a game with no mistakes by either player is a draw... So yes, you cannot "win" against perfect play.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #5

    madhacker

    Not technically true you can win on time Tongue Out

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #6

    Timothy_P

    madhacker wrote:

    Not technically true you can win on time

    That's also a mistake by your opponent!

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #7

    Scottrf

    Timothy_P wrote:
    madhacker wrote:

    Not technically true you can win on time

    That's also a mistake by your opponent!

    It's not a 'weak move' though. Unless your move strength factors in time too.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #8

    Timothy_P

    Absolutely. Using all your game timer for one move is a very weak move, isn't it?

    How about half of the timer?

    And so on.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #9

    Scottrf

    The notion of it not being a win just because your opponent didn't play perfectly is plainly nonsense anyway.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #10

    John_Doe18

    Almost all games ever played in chess history have been containing some or the other mistakes

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #11

    Timothy_P

    John_Doe18 wrote:

    Almost all games ever played in chess history have been containing some or the other mistakes

    Of course. Thankfully we aren't all computers, and no CS major (like I will be) has solved chess yet.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #12

    Timothy_P

    Scottrf wrote:

    The notion of it not being a win just because your opponent didn't play perfectly is plainly nonsense anyway.

    Bingo.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #13

    John_Doe18

    Well, ches is not solved....so even computers make minor mistakes

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #14

    Timothy_P

    Well... chess hasn't been solved, so define mistakes. If I play white and checkmate someone using the Fool's mate or the four-move checkmate, I did not make a mistake.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #15

    John_Doe18

    You make a mistake by moving pawns in the front of king in the fools mate

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #16

    Timothy_P

    How is that a mistake if I play white and WON the fool's mate? There's nothing wrong with 1. e4!

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #17

    paulgottlieb

    This subject was thoroughly beaten to death more than half a century ago. Tartakower summed the whole subject up when he said: "The winner of the game is the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #18

    John_Doe18

    In fools mate, its white who looses, not black

     

    Fools mate first move is either 1.g4 or 1.f3, not 1.e4

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #19

    Timothy_P

    It can be done by either side to either side, it just takes longer with white.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #20

    madhacker

    Scottrf wrote:

    It's not a 'weak move' though. Unless your move strength factors in time too.

    Actually it's not a weak move, period. Because it's not a move. They didn't move, therefore they lost on time. It's not a move, therefore it's not a weak move Cool


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