I do really love this site but I just think that chess.com started a new politic that I don't like.Which is that chess.com is forcing you to use a special devise to play on-line chess. on.
OK they are not telling you to use mac. or pc or what brand of laptop to use, but they are telling members " Gold but paying" that they only are allowed to make 25 moves aday when using mobile chess.Platinum and Diamonds can make as many moves they like.
Its here the new politic starts as chess.com is now restricting a group in how and where to use chess.com, as they are not paying my mobile connection to the net it is not going to cost them a penny more or less if I am using a Mobil devise or my laptop.So the next step could be that gold members are only allowed to play 25 games at the same time or make only 25 moves or staying 25minutes a day on the site.
I do understand that gold members do not have unlimited computer analysis or tactics trainer, but telling them with what device to use just to play chess its here I disagree.

Uh, remember how a week or so ago NOBODY could play from their mobile phone? What the site did wasn't to restrict how people play, but to expand the choices they have.

And though I don't have a deep understanding of these things, it's just not true that it cost Chess.com not "a penny more or less"--someone had to construct a method for the boards to register properly on the small screen size; and going forward, they will have to maintain this additional capability. In short, I bet it is more work for a chess site to offer Web+Mobile access than just Web access.

Dear DimKnight of course it cost money to make chess.com running and to expand but that is why I am paying a membership.And I do not think that it is chess.com to decide with what connection I am using the site or how many moves I am allowed a day with this or that connection.

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As DimKnight alludes to, access to many of chess.com facilities is tuned to level of membership. Type "membership" in the site search box (at the top right of the screen) and it brings up the details  http://www.chess.com/membership.html of the facilities offered at the  different levels of membership. There are additional scoped facilities not mentioned e.g. Conditional Moves.

Unquestionably, some features need to be reserved for paying customers in order to attract paying customers. Is there a difference in substance between number of moves allowed daily from a mobile and any of the other premium features?

While I agree that some functions should be reserved for higher memberships, moves per a day is definitley not one of them.  This can slow down games both for paying and non-paying members.  If I am a platinum member why should my game be slowed down because I am playing a gold member?

Here's the thing I'm apparently having a hard time understanding:

1) Chess.com, until recently, didn't allow you to access your games via mobile phone. Therefore, 

2) You had to make all your moves via a regular computer. But just a little while ago

3) Chess.com started allowing people the option to make moves via mobile phone.

4) So now that players have more than one way of making moves, this is supposed to slow things down?

5) What??

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Remember that you are not limited in the amount of moves you make in your Chess.com games, only in the number of moves you are allowed to submit via mobile phone.
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Then become diamond or platinum

lol, im going to use the restaurant reference again here....so, you visit this restaurant a lot, you like to use the bar, you dont eat, you just like to buy a drink, sit at the bar, have a nice beer or two. In the restaurant are others who pay to eat there, they order things off the menu, they pay their bill and everyone is happy. You are happy with your drink, they are happy paying for their food. One day, the restaurant generously starts to offer free bar snacks to those who buy beer at the bar....you can help yourself to peanuts, maybe an olive or two....but then you get pissy because the paying customors are eating staek and lobster and you only have peanuts to eat! its not fair you cry! solution? Order your food, then pay your bill :-))))

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See that is where we disagree, I could become a diamon or platinum for many other reasons but not with what I MAKE MY MOVES.

It most be in chess.com's interest that as many games and moves are done every day and not to stop people playing.

The thing is, like Gumpty says, chess.com is a business. The point of a business is to make money. I guess chess.com thinks that the limit on moves made from a mobile phone will make it more money because it causes more people to subscribe. Oh well. That's the essential problem with ALL businesses: their purpose is to make money.

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I agree that chess.com is a business and have to make money, but then the next step would be that not paying members only would be allowed to play 25 moves a day and so on.That might be a new politic but then there would not be the same amount of chess games for paying members as at least 2/3 OF MY GAMES IS AGAINST NOT PAYING MEMBERS

the thing you are missing is the fact that....2 weeks ago, you couldn't make ANY moves off your mobile phone, your membership included NO mobile phone access. Now you have been GIVEN the opurtunity to make 25 moves per day off your mobile for FREE and you are complaining about it. I cant beleive you cant see how this might seem unfair moaning against the site? Memers who have free acounts get the least access, members who have premium memberships get more access on a sliding scale ie the more they paid the more access they get. I cannot see where your gripe is?? or am i missing something.?

2 weeks ago, you couldn't make ANY moves off your mobile phone, your membership included NO mobile phone access.So with your membership!

im not complaining am i ? :-p

If you don't like...find a different site... Oh and 0-0 is spot on with the super nerd comment. 

as they are not paying my mobile connection to the net it is not going to cost them a penny more or less if I am using a Mobil devise or my laptop.

You are not an IT person and do not know what you are talking about.  Supporting mobile devices at this time is considerably more work, and the coding is more difficult to make stable across the many platforms and standards available.  They may, in fact, be in very deep water for a while making good on the mobile access unless they have tested, tested, and tested some more.

Mobile devices will become monumentally important, and the time will come when it is easier to support mobile devices and large format devices (such as PC), while coding, but one ain't nothin' like the other.  The USA is way behind the world on mobile and it's going to take time and money to catch up.

Almost all of the complaints that I have seen are being made by people that don't want to hear or understand the issues or pay for the services.  Whiners.

Most of my businesses are affected, starting today, by the USPS rate increase, which is about 5% across the board.  They didn't ask for my input.  They gave me notice that rates would be going up and that is that.  I will be raising prices across the board on all of my websites to cover that increase, and that is that.  A few of them will see larger increases because I probably should have already raised prices to cover other costs and invesments that have gone into them.  Wake the f... up.

You can call it complain but I actually started this topic as I do not think chess.com is changing their member politic and it could be dangerous to the site which I am the same time love as it is far away the best chess site and for me even site on the net and I would like it to stay that way.

But chess.com can still take or make wrong decisions and I am just afraid that this is the start of something that I do not like.

As I wrote before refusing the amount of games or moves for non paying members or even for paying members OR ?

I might be all wrong but at least I  would have maked some people think where the boarders are.

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Some people are never happy, no matter what benefits they enjoy. Your points/arguements have fallen on universally deaf ears, as far as the rest of the membership are concerned. Not one post supports your stance.... kinda makes you think, doesn't it? well it should do!

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I used to be an insurance salesman for the Combined Insurance Company of America. When I became a vampire, I developed more scruples and had to give up!

This is insane, they aren't dictating what you use to access the chess.com website and make your moves, all they've done is allow people to access the site on mobile phones (though I think the iphone could anyway). Yes, they've restricted this, but this is a plus. How did you access the site before?

They aren't "forcing you to use a special devise" as you say, in fact its the opposite, they're trying to make more devises available to access the site. Its pathetic, every time chess.com tries to take a step forward with a new idea people complain because they can't get it for free. The worrying thing in my view is not how they implement these changes, but that all you moaners might annoy them enough to make them stop improving things at all.