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12th October 2008, 05:03am
#1
by Mm40
United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 423

I got an alert for a game I resigned last night; One of the options under request rematch was "Request Computer Analysis". I had never seen this before. Is this some sort of new feature? I hope so.

12th October 2008, 05:08am
#2
by promotedpawn
Somewhere out there Great Britain
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 682

yep use it well thou. only 1 per week for us.It takes ages thou.

12th October 2008, 05:08am
#3
by Mm40
United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 423

Now they tell me Frown

12th October 2008, 06:34am
#4
by xbigboy
Minnesota United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 2175
Mm40 wrote:

Now they tell me


BUT afterward you're supposed to get GREAT analysis. :D

12th October 2008, 06:38am
#5
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1420

1 per week, really?

12th October 2008, 06:39am
#6
by londonanimal
London England
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 29

Once per week is great, considering how much processing power it takes, just wished I'd used on a different game now! Still it's going to be cool to see the results of the anaylsis :-)

12th October 2008, 06:39am
#7
by trigs
Hamilton Canada
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 191

does this only come up after a game is completely? how many are paying players allowed to have? i'm looking forward to using it!

12th October 2008, 06:46am
#8
by londonanimal
London England
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 29

Found this here: http://support.chess.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=700

 

"Basic memberships: 1 Computer Analysis per month / search depth of 8 ply estimated at 2000 strength.

Silver/Gold memberships: 1 Computer Analysis per week / search depth of 10 ply estimated at 2200 strength.

Platinum/Diamond memberships: 10 Computer Analysis per week / search depth of 12 ply estimated at 2400 strength."

12th October 2008, 06:46am
#9
by Maradonna
Scotland
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1244

I played a shocking game where I lost a piece on  my fourth move and then set myself up for checkmate on my fifth. I saw the wee computer analysis button as I resigned and expected to see something flash up on the screen, instead it has been sent to a secert lab. Is there a way to stop your request? Since my request is a waste of everybodies time :)

12th October 2008, 06:50am
#10
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1420
londonanimal wrote:

Found this here: http://support.chess.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=700

 

 

"Basic memberships: 1 Computer Analysis per month / search depth of 8 ply estimated at 2000 strength.

Silver/Gold memberships: 1 Computer Analysis per week / search depth of 10 ply estimated at 2200 strength.

Platinum/Diamond memberships: 10 Computer Analysis per week / search depth of 12 ply estimated at 2400 strength."


Whoo hoo!

12th October 2008, 07:04am
#11
by petershaby
Exeter England England
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 683

Maradonna

I did the same thing LOL! I clicked the button just to see what it did, but worse then that the game is being analysed by a computer which is weaker then the standard of the game itself (Linksspringer v Petershaby!). I will get results which will suggest I should have played different moves - most of them will no doubt be weak tactical threats, and not of the positional sense that would be required to play for an even endgame as black. Nevermind, should be interesting!

12th October 2008, 07:17am
#12
by Maradonna
Scotland
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1244

petershaby

Aye, I can see the computer laughing at me now. I'm just glad I'm not the only one :)

12th October 2008, 07:34am
#13
by georgez
Porto Alegre Brazil
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 175
petershaby wrote:

Maradonna

I did the same thing LOL! I clicked the button just to see what it did...

Me too!

12th October 2008, 07:39am
#14
by ariangelobarron
Cavite Philippines
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 109

well, at least the basics have one analysis per month. Smile

12th October 2008, 08:57am
#15
by MM78
Ireland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1198

I wonder if these rating estimates are FIDE or Chess.com?  I'll be trying it out, have sent one fairly easy win for me for analysis, still waiting. I already look at about 10-15 % of my games with Fritz, particularly the losses, interesting opening novelties or tactical complications. I've found I've given draws where I was winning by a large margin per Fritz but I've had a few escapes agaisnt very strong players.  Puts paid to the notion that the vast majority of the top 100 players are cheating.

12th October 2008, 09:04am
#16
by bondiggity
Evanston United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 403

Yeah MM78, and the fact that almost none of them play live chess definitely makes you wonder. 

 

Well this sure is an interesting feature, kind of wish they would nix the freebies and up the strength of membership analysis, but I'm still happy about this new feature.

12th October 2008, 09:13am
#17
by Lord-Svenstikov
Worcester United Kingdom
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 675

Is there an estimation of how long the process takes?

12th October 2008, 09:20am
#18
by MM78
Ireland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1198
Lord-Svenstikov wrote:

Is there an estimation of how long the process takes?


 folow the link given earlier for all details: but here's the relevant bit:

After you complete a chess game in the Live Chess or Online Chess play you can click on the "Computer Analysis" link on the game page to send the game in for the computer programs at Chess.com to analyze. Note that this process can take up to 24 hours to complete the computer analysis for one game as the computer programs at Chess.com deeply and critically analyze the game move by move. Once the Computer Analysis has been completed you will be sent a message to your Chess.com account when you will be able to access and view this analysis to learn from the game.

12th October 2008, 12:17pm
#19
by Shruikon
Worcester England
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 259

It should ask to make sure if you want to send that game. I, like others have said, clicked the button to see what it did on a game that lasted 2 moves (greeter game, opponent never returned, as per usual) and now I've wasted it.

13th October 2008, 06:25am
#20
by linksspringer
Scotland, UK Netherlands
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2515
petershaby wrote:

Maradonna

I did the same thing LOL! I clicked the button just to see what it did, but worse then that the game is being analysed by a computer which is weaker then the standard of the game itself (Linksspringer v Petershaby!). I will get results which will suggest I should have played different moves - most of them will no doubt be weak tactical threats, and not of the positional sense that would be required to play for an even endgame as black. Nevermind, should be interesting!


Same here! Now I have to wait a week before I can have another go!
Peter, how many dubious moves has the computer found in our game? Tongue out

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