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Thank you, jbird39...
I meant, how is it an official term for the modern way it's played here. No one is disputing what it was called back in 1909.
The ICCF is a current organization. I'm sure they added the "webserver" verbiage sometime after being founded in 1951....
Good for you, jbird 39! Your comment should finally end the agony of all the empty-headed prattle that has been so abundant in this thread. I fear, however, that it won't. It seems that many are just amusing themselves by making a silly game of it by seeing how clever they can be. Sophistry, in a word.
Okay, so even though no transmission is leaving the site. It's still correspondence? Well, hell's bells, everything online should have correspondence before the title. Correspondence forums, Correspondence twitter, Correspondence Chess960, etc.
Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves - for we shall never cease to be amused...
It appears to have not changed since 2007, and they still play by sending the moves directly to players. Nothing like this site.
From their site:
When your opponent moves you get an email notification like this:
Subject: ICCF: Last name, First moves Qxh5 Message from your opponent:
Hi Franklin, Blah, blah, blah, etc. Talk later, name [Event "1st WS USCCC-P03"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "2005.4.17"] [Round "-"] [White "Campbell, J. Franklin"] [Black "Last, First"] [Result "*"] [WhiteElo "2129"] [BlackElo "nnnn"] 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Qc2 O-O 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.Qxc3 b6 7.Bg5 Bb7 8.e3 d6 9.f3 Nbd7 10.Nh3 c5 * Your time left: 45 days 0:00 Opponent time left: 42 days 0:00 ICCF - The International Correspondence Chess Federation www.iccf.com www.iccf-webchess.com
And while their site has an overwhelming number of active members on it. 24 right now, all guests. I can see how they are "official."
In a single hour on this site has more players than a month there.
In chess this move is called desperado, I believe?
I'll repeat: The medium itself is irrelevant.
Turn based play here is non-concurrent communication of chess moves over a distance just like it was with telegraph, just like it was with postcards and just like it was with e-mail.
Correspondence is an entirely appropriate -- in fact, a perfect -- adjective.
As one nod to modernity spam-free Corresponence Chess would be very pleasant.
changeabout. cycle chess. circumvolution chess. spin chess. mutation chess. warpchess. contention chess. commission chess. imbibe chess.
I kinda like Cycle chess. Just liked the simplicity of it at first, but it does fit as well under several definitions of it.
2b. one complete performance of a vibration, electric oscillation, current alternation, or other periodic process.
4. a long period of time
Many may think of it as meaning only a loop or bicycle, but it stays simple and does have a certain catchiness to it. It allows branding and future changes to how the game could develop. It also distinguishes it from how chess960 is played here, (which the name would also need to be looked up to know what it is.)
It also kind of fits in with Erik's picks of: Daily, Slow (bleh), Anytime (no better than online), etc. And his view (which I agree with) that Correspondence Chess is "such a long and awkward word."
But doesn't correspondence means essentially sending a message from one place to another? If the "message" never leaves the server, then how is it a correspondence?
I'll remind you I don't check my email to play and I'd imagine that many also don't. Especially ones that play 20+ games at a time, so they can come back whenever and continue their games in progress.
Maybe if most people played one or two games with a 10 day interval between moves, then it could be more useful to get notified. But why not just go to the site itself rather than check your email to see if it's your turn?
How did it get to the server? How does it get to your computer?
I earlier suggested "Simultaneous Chess" or "Simul Chess," but the idea was met with resounding silence, so I'll move on.
Simultaneous Chess has more to do with the style of the player and not much to do with the style or method of play.
In a similar sense you could call it Audio chess since some players may like the sound effects. But this doesn't really describe the game, but rather the player's preference.
I myself don't see much point in playing 50 games at once, and would hope that in the future they will implement a system that allows me to play against people who tend to play few games as well, so that I know they are more likely putting more thought into their play, without me having to hunt for these people myself. You can already play against people who tend to make quicker moves.
Packets of data are sent. Same way Live Chess works.
Later we hated that name and changed it to "Online Chess". But all chess is online...
I know it's a little late in the topic, but how is all chess online?
Easy for you to say. When was the last time you wrote a letter...make that typed a letter on a typewriter?
I go back not only to the electric typewriter but the manual typewriters. I go back to ice boxes, radio days and carbon paper.
"Correspondence chess", if you checked back I don't recall how many posts ago, is what I, too, recommended.
I will maintain that "correspondence" is a very dated word. Tell me about Morse code...I had an F.C.C. commercial license for it. That too is deader than a Dodo bird.
And don't lecture me about the founding of chess. I've been playing it for over a half century.
Anyway, it may be time to discard the old, archaic "correspondence" word. You ought to realize that it was played through the mail...thus the "correspondence". And it wasn't played via the use of computer databases.
These are further reasons that "correspondence" should be chucked.
BTW...I am the old guy at 68. Some of you young 'uns sound like the old farts to me (lol).
Seriously...time to move away from a word that had meaning in Charles Dickens era...but not so much anymore.
Morse Code is not dead. Hams and lots of other folks use it every day.
In fact, Morse Code saved the world. Did you not see the movie "Independence Day" ???
I'm fairly sure he meant all chess play online here.
Ah. I was thinking that, but I wan'tsure why he worded it like that.
Yeah, there seems to be a misconception that correspondence refers specifically to mail. Mail is one example of correspondence, and since it was such a good adjective to describe it they became somewhat synonymous.
If you look at the actual definition of correspondence, it's non-concurrent distance communication between parties. The medium itself is irrelevant. In that sense, it's actually the perfect adjective for turn based chess here.
Your point seems to be an extremely difficuly one to grasp. Most folks just don't see it that way.
Distance isn't relevant. I can play someone in china as easily as in my very own home. Just one more reason why it doesn't fit anymore.
Not sure why the temporal aspect is ignored, as that is the only way to accurately describe it. Else you could be describing any type of chess played here with that term.
So it doesn't all stay on the server....
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