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Not terribly constructive.
Nor the least bit funny.
how about long term chess
This type f chess is not always daily. It could be weekly or biweekly as well, so that's not a good choice IMO. Correspondence still works and no one has said why it's a bad name
Except Chessplayer11 doesn't like it ? (correspondence). Don't know why not nor do I know what he does like.
Maybe you should read though the posts again. I've given my suggestions and what I didn't like in various posts. They're not hiding.
Correspondence refers to distance and/or notification. Neither of which are the cornerstone of what's played here. You always set the game in number of days. Online chess is temporal based and thought of more that way than either distance or notification based. Multiple day chess or multi-day chess has been suggested and in fact is how it is primarily described when explained to others.
I've asked why correspondence is an accurate term for what's played here and I've only gotten varied answers including tradition. But nothing that relates it to what is actually played here now. Chess 960 is identical to what is online chess here if you think of it in terms of notification.
I have also played entire games without ever checking my email. The last remnant of what even make it correspondence. I haven't found a single post that explains how it is correspondence. I can play without checking my email, and against someone in my own house.
The defining factor is the length of time.
In 5 to 10 years from now, it will continue to expand in ways that haven't yet been though of, and the only factor of this style of game that will remain the same is the temporal aspect.
Plus the term Correspondence Chess still exists as much as pen-pals do. Pen-pals communicate with distance others via postal mail. Email and other similar systems were never called pen-pal because they just weren't that, and pen-pal writing does still exist. In deference to correspondent reporters, they no longer submit their news stories via mail. There's no overlapping of different systems as one completely replaced the other.
Perhaps other servers are closer to what it once was, but here it's not and to reiterate... it's never been called that here. So to say we should stick with it(???), makes no sense.
Yeah, there seems to be a misconception that correspondence refers specifically to mail. Mail is one example of correspondence, and since it was such a good adjective to describe it they became somewhat synonymous.
If you look at the actual definition of correspondence, it's non-concurrent distance communication between parties. The medium itself is irrelevant. In that sense, it's actually the perfect adjective for turn based chess here.
The only part of your statement I'd dispute is the notion that one-minute chess is also correspondence. It's actually concurrent communication.
Chessplayer11. I noticed you in the forums the other day looking for obscure chess-software/German hardware ? Assumed you had strong interest in the computer-analysis side of chess which was why against what you perceive old-fashioned name ?
Sorry I never read your posts they are way too long...
You're confusing me with someone else. I rarely post in forums on here. Apparently even my screen name is too long.
You're probably thinking about chessplayer12 -- the sequel featuring the addition of Andy Garcia.
In 3D like avatar was ? Yes possibly..
"K279 wrote: Correspondence chess - official term.
"chessplayer 11 wrote: What group made that "official". And what clout do they have?
Correspondence Chess League Of America. Founded in 1909.
International Correspondence Chess Federation. Founded in 1951.
From ICCF web site:
"Correspondence chess is a type ofthe world wide, well known game of chess, which has been played between town, chess clubs, and/or individuals by using:
1. Traditional postal transmissions.
2. Modem ways of transmission using a dedicated webserver."
I meant, how is it an official term for the modern way it's played here. No one is disputing what it was called back in 1909.
Thank you, jbird39...
The ICCF is a current organization. I'm sure they added the "webserver" verbiage sometime after being founded in 1951....
Good for you, jbird 39! Your comment should finally end the agony of all the empty-headed prattle that has been so abundant in this thread. I fear, however, that it won't. It seems that many are just amusing themselves by making a silly game of it by seeing how clever they can be. Sophistry, in a word.
Okay, so even though no transmission is leaving the site. It's still correspondence? Well, hell's bells, everything online should have correspondence before the title. Correspondence forums, Correspondence twitter, Correspondence Chess960, etc.
Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves - for we shall never cease to be amused...
It appears to have not changed since 2007, and they still play by sending the moves directly to players. Nothing like this site.
From their site:
When your opponent moves you get an email notification like this:
Subject: ICCF: Last name, First moves Qxh5 Message from your opponent:
Hi Franklin, Blah, blah, blah, etc. Talk later, name [Event "1st WS USCCC-P03"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "2005.4.17"] [Round "-"] [White "Campbell, J. Franklin"] [Black "Last, First"] [Result "*"] [WhiteElo "2129"] [BlackElo "nnnn"] 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Qc2 O-O 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.Qxc3 b6 7.Bg5 Bb7 8.e3 d6 9.f3 Nbd7 10.Nh3 c5 * Your time left: 45 days 0:00 Opponent time left: 42 days 0:00 ICCF - The International Correspondence Chess Federation www.iccf.com www.iccf-webchess.com
And while their site has an overwhelming number of active members on it. 24 right now, all guests. I can see how they are "official."
In a single hour on this site has more players than a month there.
In chess this move is called desperado, I believe?
I'll repeat: The medium itself is irrelevant.
Turn based play here is non-concurrent communication of chess moves over a distance just like it was with telegraph, just like it was with postcards and just like it was with e-mail.
Correspondence is an entirely appropriate -- in fact, a perfect -- adjective.
As one nod to modernity spam-free Corresponence Chess would be very pleasant.
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