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Debate: What to call "Online Chess"...


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1021

    himath2009

    When we are done here, we can turn our attention to music - there are so many archaic terms there that could benefit from our newspeak zeal...
  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1022

    Sooner

    Actually, my zeal is for oldspeak to a certain extent, not newspeak. Perhaps "traditionalspeak" would be a more apt term for my meaning.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1023

    xqsme

    Takes all kinds....so long as we are not unduly fardelled by bared bodkins.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1024

    TheGrobe

    Preventative is disputed.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1025

    himath2009

    Sooner wrote:

    Actually, my zeal is for oldspeak to a certain extent, not newspeak. Perhaps "traditional speak" would be a more apt term for my meaning................

    I know, Gerry, I was not referring to you... Just wanted to make a point that what should have been a simple and done discussion on whether one should adhere to the (obvious, to me at least) name "Correspondence Chess" or not, is turning into a tedious thread with an Orwellian (or Kafkaesque, if you prefer) flavour to it...

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1026

    e4nf3

    chess for the lethargic

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1027

    Sooner

    You got that right, Hari! This thread became a verbal analogue to the carnival house of mirrors long ago and, like Boris Karloff's "The Mummy," continues ever to make its slow, laborious, senseless, but ineluctable way onward, dragging one leg along behind it all the while.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1028

    BigLew

    CHECK CHESS! You have to CHECK in daily to CHECK on the progress of your game, to see if your opponent worked his way out of CHECK and is only a couple of moves from putting you in CHECK mate.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1029

    Sooner

    TheGrobe wrote:

    Preventative is disputed.

    Your authority?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1030

    ChazR

    For anyone this may apply to:

    There is the bona fide condition of Histrionic Personality Disorder (section 301.50 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychological Association (DSM-IV). 

    This disorder is characterized by an excessive attention seeking behavior where the person is uncomfortable in situations when he/she/it is not the center of attention.  The person consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention and also uses seductive or sexually provocative behavior inappropriately and prematurely believes relationships are intimate.  The style of speech is impressionistic, lacks detail, and show a theatrical (drama-queen/king) exaggerated expression of emotion.  Such a person displays shifting and shallow emotions and is easily suggestible and influenced by others or circumstances.  The prognosis is guarded in the case of this disorder, due mostly to the person’s lack of insight and awareness into themselves.  This is compounded by the person’s failure to face reality and recognize they are just not so special or important.

    In other words, opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one.  The oppressive need of one person to be the best is rather childish.

       

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1031

    AlCzervik

    ChazR wrote:

    For anyone this may apply to:

    There is the bona fide condition of Histrionic Personality Disorder (section 301.50 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychological Association (DSM-IV). 

    This disorder is characterized by an excessive attention seeking behavior where the person is uncomfortable in situations when he/she/it is not the center of attention.  The person consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention and also uses seductive or sexually provocative behavior inappropriately and prematurely believes relationships are intimate.  The style of speech is impressionistic, lacks detail, and show a theatrical (drama-queen/king) exaggerated expression of emotion.  Such a person displays shifting and shallow emotions and is easily suggestible and influenced by others or circumstances.  The prognosis is guarded in the case of this disorder, due mostly to the person’s lack of insight and awareness into themselves.  This is compounded by the person’s failure to face reality and recognize they are just not so special or important.

    In other words, opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one.  The oppressive need of one person to be the best is rather childish.

       

    This sounds exactly like one of the chess.com members.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1032

    motherinlaw

    Sorry guys---you misconstrued the (mildly misquoted) cookbook (DSM) definition of Histrionic Personality Disorder.   I don't know what person you're talking about, but I'm jumping in because as a psychologist, I hate seeing pseudo-psychological info being disseminated.  Someone with HPD doesn't need to be "the best" or be "right" ----With HPD, the need is to be "noticed," to be looked at, listened to, sought out by others to be given more attention. The key is in the first sentence: "excessive attention-seeking behavior."  That's it. The only additional inference we can add is that the person does not like "being ignored."

    One more caution: as with all personality categories, there's a broad spectrum of intensity in the characteristics.  You've quoted a "Disorder," which indicates a pathological degree of symptamotology.  A "Histionic Personality TYPE" is just a normal variant of all the many "types" of homo sapiens you run into every day---on the street----or on a site for "Interwebs Electrochess." Laughing (sorry, couldn't resist.)  

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1033

    e4nf3

    snooker chess

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1034

    Sooner

    ChazR wrote:

    For anyone this may apply to:

    There is the bona fide condition of Histrionic Personality Disorder (section 301.50 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychological Association (DSM-IV). 

    This disorder is characterized by an excessive attention seeking behavior where the person is uncomfortable in situations when he/she/it is not the center of attention.  The person consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention and also uses seductive or sexually provocative behavior inappropriately and prematurely believes relationships are intimate.  The style of speech is impressionistic, lacks detail, and show a theatrical (drama-queen/king) exaggerated expression of emotion.  Such a person displays shifting and shallow emotions and is easily suggestible and influenced by others or circumstances.  The prognosis is guarded in the case of this disorder, due mostly to the person’s lack of insight and awareness into themselves.  This is compounded by the person’s failure to face reality and recognize they are just not so special or important.

    In other words, opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one.  The oppressive need of one person to be the best is rather childish.

       

    And the relevance of your comment to the issue of a suitable new name for "online chess" or "turn-based chess" would be what?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1035

    Sooner

    motherinlaw wrote:

    Sorry guys---you misconstrued the (mildly misquoted) cookbook (DSM) definition of Histrionic Personality Disorder.   I don't know what person you're talking about, but I'm jumping in because as a psychologist, I hate seeing pseudo-psychological info being disseminated.  Someone with HPD doesn't need to be "the best" or be "right" ----With HPD, the need is to be "noticed," to be looked at, listened to, sought out by others to be given more attention. The key is in the first sentence: "excessive attention-seeking behavior."  That's it. The only additional inference we can add is that the person does not like "being ignored."

    One more caution: as with all personality categories, there's a broad spectrum of intensity in the characteristics.  You've quoted a "Disorder," which indicates a pathological degree of symptamotology.  A "Histionic Personality TYPE" is just a normal variant of all the many "types" of homo sapiens you run into every day---on the street----or on a site for "Interwebs Electrochess."  (sorry, couldn't resist.)  

    A very praiseworthy comment, motherinlaw. I commend you for it even though I do not possess the technical expertise upon which to base my praise of it. However, it was an intellectually well-balanced, sensible, thoughtfully nuanced statement. That much I can tell as a layman. It was a refreshing counterweight to ChazR's comment. And, as for relevance to the topic at hand, you covered that by offering your own suggestion for a new name, although it's not one I would ever choose. YUK! Would one have to don a Flash Gordon suit to play a game with a name like that?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1036

    motherinlaw

    "OMG!!  Sooner, Did you just call my comment Irrelevant??!!!" .....(as a true histrionic would reply).....  "I Can TOtally NOT BELIEVE You Just DID That!!!"

    SurprisedYellSurprisedCrySurprisedKissSurprisedInnocentSurprised  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   KissSmileKiss

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1037

    ClavierCavalier

    My question is are they going to ever change it?  They had that pole a while ago and Correspondance Chess won by quite a large margin, if my memory serves me well.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1038

    AlCzervik

    Correspondence Chess climbed that pole like a pro.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1039

    PHI33

    To capture the war-like nature of the game:

    1. online chess -> siege chess

    2. live chess -> skirmish chess

    Blitz, of course, comes from the fast-paced war tactic called blitzkrieg. It seems to be a fairly popular way of naming chess related stuff.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1040

    shengyi

    When does the voting for the name end?


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