Dear Chess.com,
I think it's a little annoying how almost every single "bad word" gets you a warning from the server. I just got kicked out because I said the word "pissed", never realizing that the word "pissed" is a "bad word". I think what should be done to address this annoying issue is when someone types in a "bad word", their message is just entirely blank. That way no one gets kicked and everyone can be happy. Thanks and I hope this will make Live Chess better for myself and every-other "bad person" on the website. Thank you for reading!
-Chris
I would actually like to see the word 'fag' added to the list, as this has happened more than once to me on live chess:
silentfilmstar13: hi
silentfilmstar wins by checkmate
opponent: fag
opponent has closed the game window
chris:
here's the issue with that word - it's not a big deal in the USA, but in the UK it's REALLY bad. and we have like 10% of users in the UK. it's tough to manage it all...
Is the "n word? banned?
Being a minority in the U.S., I hear it enough in the "real word", but I have not logged back in to Live Chess since someone (maybe multiple people, I can't really remember) was spamming using that particular word.
^cool.
I must say that you respond very quickly to people.
Don't you have a job
I sometimes moderate the livechess chat-box, and it is my habit to delete offensive language, persistent offenders get kicked. My reasons for these actions are many:
1. Words we might use in private are not always suitable for a wider (unknown public) audience. Imagine the following scenario: Young Bobby is sitting at his computer happily playing blitz when his mother casts an eye over a forum littered with profanity.... well I guess Bobby's playing chequers tomorrow, eh?
2. Tomorrow's history of chess will be about us and our words and deeds. In the past chess has been played (to a large extent) by intelligent, well-mannered people, in an enlightened environment. Shall we call an end to this legacy of refinement? surely football games, and the like, provide ample opportunity for the sort of public displays some enjoy.
3. Swearing/ racism/ spamming all infer a lack of respect for the other people present... other (proper and polite) words exist, and the large silent majority would prefer you use them.
I've so much more to say on this issue, but sense I've said enough, for now. Remember, as far as I, and most people who have reached maturity feel, swearing doesn't make you sound big or clever, merely immature and incapable.
I work at a facility that deals with troubled,disadvantaged, and abusive teens. We adopted a 'zero tolerance' policy towards any behavior that would be deemed inappropriate. The change in attitudes were quite remarkable.
The staff at Chess.com have set the standards. Those who abide by the standards set, should not be afflicted by those who won't. You have the time to reconsider what you are about to send, and it's consequences. If people raised in a violent, abusive situation can modify their speech and behavior. Those who have a chance to think it over have no excuse.
fag? must be the same person
called me "fag" after being checkmated when i had less than 1 sec left and he [im sure it was a he - read on] had 30 secs left; then he noticed i was female and called me "you slut"
ive encounted this trash here only once - on fics i am hardened to it and i have tricks to give better than i get :) but i need the +censor command for that to rotort and immediatedly censor the offender (so that offender becomes invisible to me and knows it).
By whom? Please demonstrate your assertion, William.
It's Snakes and Ladders for me, King Billy.
Roll roll...
1, 2, 3, 4, snake?!
Awwwww Ffffffffffuu%#@!!!!
I work at a facility that deals with troubled,disadvantaged, and abusive teens. "
This is not a facility for teens. This site is not responisble for anything related to that, and a zero tolerance policy like you suggest is impractical and inappropriate. We are not troubled teens, and not in need of an attitude adjustment for progress in treatment.
I am not trying not justify or rationalize someone calling you 'fag' in a game. But by letting this bug you, it only gives them power. Spamming or habitial swearing is annoying. Personal attacks should not be allowed. However movies, video games, family and friends provide plent of outlets so kids already know these words anyway. If a kid is old enough to win a game of chess, he knows a little schoolyard cussing.
While I am not a proponent of over the top swearing, I think that the chess. community should hold a online pole to determine rules. I personally think that we should
1. have a clear rule of whats acceptable and not (personal attacks and spamming being whats not acceptable.)
2. allow most swear words because no one is really being hurt
3. Realize that this site is a U.S. based site and our 1st amendment gauruntees us freedom of speech. Why restrict my civil libeties because little Johnys mom doesn't like it. Put simply, I don't give a F#@K what Jonny's mom thinks.
Swear words can be damaging to a person. Am I physically hurt by them? No, but it does make for an uncomfortable atmosphere. I guess it does depend on the context.
Remember that the purpose of this site is to build a chess community (not to mention it is also a business). More specifically, a freindly environment where you can meet people and play chess.
Although we do have the first amendment, there are always consenquences for actions. You should know that you cannot say whatever you want to whoever you want and not expect some kind of consenquence (try threatning a cop and see how far the 1st amendment gets you [maybe not the best example]).
ChessGansta, the 1st ammendment was to protect citizens from government, to enable citizens to be free to critizise them. It is not carte blanche to say what one wants in any situation. This is a private forum and as such chess.com make the rules which we agreed to when we joined. "Freedom of speech" in this forum is entirely dependant upon what chess.com sees fit.
swear words are not filtered in private games, as they shouldn't be. I certainly advocate and am glad there is a filter in public chat however. There is no need whatsoever to swear or evade a swear filter in public chat. Sure some words are debateable if they are "bad" or not, like "pissed" in the example. I dont have a problem with that, in fact im pissed most nights after my Shiraz ;) (funnily enough a US player asked me why i was pissed when i was apologising fer a silly move sayin i was pisssed... he thought i was pissed off (annoyed) at him heh, which i wasnt. So i guess confusions can happen across waters.) Regardless of view on swearing, there is no need fer it, so just err on the side of caution :)
btw, just fyi, obscenity is not protected by the 1st ammendment.There arein fact restrictions to freedom of speech.
With respect i draw attention to the actual wording:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech.."
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1
Note that it is making clear that the government... can not remove your freedom of speech. This part of the Constitution of the US protects you as a citizen, from the US Congress in respect to free speech, as i was saying before. Only from Congress... Even then there are certain restrictions, such as the famous example of shouting "fire" in a cinema... that is illegal (unless of course there is a fire heh)
Freedom of speech is indeed as you say freedom of speech, but reliance on the 1st amendment does not make you any more right, in fact, it makes you more wrong given your assertions.
Chess.com are 100% right to adopt high standards on this site and there should be no justification for obcene of abusive language. This is a family friendly and safe site. erik and the team do an excellent job of dealing with those who seek to spoil what otherwise is a polite and considerate community.
The person claiming freedom of speech, and 1st ammendment is wrong. This site may be in the US, but it is privately own. Private property is sacred here in the US. The owners have the right to discriminate against anything they please, including language.
I would suggest rather than banning - simply replacing filtered words with asterix. Keeps everyone happy.
With all due respect, ChessGangsta, your attitude is not only hostile but you're deeply misinformed.
The Constitution does not guarantee that you can shoot your mouth off wherever you please. It says that no laws will be passed to restrict public speech.
Two important things there: laws, and public.
Chess.com is NOT a public forum. It is a private one, privately owned and operated. As such, its owners have the perfect right to establish and enforce rules as they see fit. Not laws, but rules.
Your civil liberties aren't being restricted here.
Secondly, it's massively self-centered of you to say you "don't give a F#@K what Jonny's mom thinks." Unfortunately, Jonny has to care.
Please understand this: Chess.com isn't prohibiting obscenity out of general prudery. It's because there's a commitment to keep this an "all ages" site.
In that respect, we're much like a physical chess club.I know that if you walked into my local chess club, you'd see a lot of young kids (including one 9-year-old master). If you started spouting obscenities at them, you'd be tossed out the door immediately.
So, yes: we have standards of behavior here. They're based on being as inclusive as possible. Is that really something you want to scoff at?
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