Group death?

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9th October 2009, 08:59am
#1
by Defacto
Zagreb Croatia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1346

2.This is "potential problem" ????

Problem:

Some groups recently went to cca. 2000 members.This wouldnt be a problem if members could join just one group but this is not the case.Since most of smaller groups members are also members of those cca. 2000 groups this means that they cant join matches played against those 2000 groups.

Hypothetical situation:

If members of Team A(who got 500 members)are also members of Team B(who got 1000 members)If Team A and B are playing against each others not 1 member of Team A will be able to join match.This is not a problem for a team B because he got another 500 members who can join...Matches are beeing decided even before they are started....not good for THE GAME.

Result:Few big teams will have almost all players on chess.com as their members and smaller teams will not be able to compete against them because most smaller team members are all members of big team too.....

Nobody likes restrictions like limiting number of groups you can be in or how many members 1 group can have......Does anyone have solution?

Am I just paranoid? Chasing windmills here?

9th October 2009, 09:13am
#2
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 4338

If this theoretical situation actually exists isn't this more of a problem for the large all encompassing group who can't find any competition as opposed to the smaller ones who could always play each other?

I don't see it as a real issue....

9th October 2009, 09:13am
#3
by chess_kebabs
Australia
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 24019
Defacto wrote:

2.This is "potential problem" ????

Problem:

Some groups recently went to cca. 2000 members.This wouldnt be a problem if members could join just one group but this is not the case.Since most of smaller groups members are also members of those cca. 2000 groups this means that they cant join matches played against those 2000 groups.

Hypothetical situation:

If members of Team A(who got 500 members)are also members of Team B(who got 1000 members)If Team A and B are playing against each others not 1 member of Team A will be able to join match.This is not a problem for a team B because he got another 500 members who can join...Matches are beeing decided even before they are started....not good for THE GAME.

Result:Few big teams will have almost all players on chess.com as their members and smaller teams will not be able to compete against them because most smaller team members are all members of big team too.....

Nobody likes restrictions like limiting number of groups you can be in or how many members 1 group can have......Does anyone have solution?

Am I just paranoid? Chasing windmills here?


I assume it's done to prevent people from joining a group with the sole purpose to throw their games to give the group they are really loyal to the extra points.

In other words, a precaution against cheating.

9th October 2009, 09:27am
#4
by Defacto
Zagreb Croatia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1346

Chess_kebabs I know why it is done.You miss the point

This hypothetical situation exists(not in this extreem exsample but it is there).Matches are beeing decided even before they are started....not good for THE GAME.

TM World league will soon be decided by this "hypothetical situation".

9th October 2009, 11:28pm
#5
by PanaPawn
Montrose, CA United States
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 171

So what? It's like athletes choosing to compete for their home countries rather than their current residences in the olympics. 

10th October 2009, 06:41am
#6
by Defacto
Zagreb Croatia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1346

It is nothing like that????????? Or could you explain that little better?

10th October 2009, 07:13am
#7
by TadDude
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 966
PanaPawn wrote:

So what? It's like athletes choosing to compete for their home countries rather than their current residences in the olympics. 


I believe Defacto is saying the opposite. Those athletes you speak of would not be allowed to compete for either country.

If players who are in two groups are not allowed to play for either group, a 1000 vs 500 match is in effect a 500 vs 0 match.

11th October 2009, 06:45am
#8
by Defacto
Zagreb Croatia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1346

Exactly....

 

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