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catnapper
Before I get into the subject, I'd like all to note that I have searched the forums and have not seen this topic discussed. However, in my search I did come across some related posts, the first ones being from the owner of chess.com:http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-ruleshttp://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/forum-posting-rules---be-nice--no-religious-or-political-debatehttp://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-policy-on-cheatingIf you chose not to read them, the relative points that when posting in the forums one should not use offensive/vulgar language, make personal attacks, not discuss or accuse suspected cheaters, be respectful and not mean.The other post I came across was this one:http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/lack-of-decorumThe point to be gleaned from this one is that the forums apparently are moderated. Also of a side note is a comment by TheGrobe, definately a ten pointer!To complete my introduction, while researching a player for an anticipated upcoming pairing, I came across some accusations on "her" homepage, "she" leveled some at another player and he made some in "her" notes, one of which was that "her" homepage was made up of photos taken off the internet, which proves to be true. (I don't believe "she" is a she, hence the quotes, which I'll cease from this point on.) The next day all the notes were gone, but I found the source of the contention, it consisted of name calling and extreme profanity, even a plea by the TD to remove their notes from the tournament homepage. Curiousity piqued, I checked out other tournament homepages she is playing in and I found a pattern of abuses, which include name calling, accustions of computer use, complaining of taking too much time to move, demanding resignations or that players be put out of the tournament, as well as the one that was laced with profanity. Presently on her homepage there is a note she is out to "catch" me and she is accusing another player of doing the exact same thing she did (lose initial games to starting off with a rating of less than 1000, then entering tournaments and beating much higher ranked players) not only in her notes, but his notes and their tournament homepage as well. All of this is contrary to the posting rules cited above, at least in my opinion. I can provide links to the tournament pages to any who would be interested so you can see for yourself, however by private message only, not in the forum.So now to my questions. Do the same posting rules on the forums apply to the tournament homepages and on player's homepages? If not, why not? If so, is there any way to moderate the tournament homepages?I've blocked her, disabled the chat in our games, and have discussed it with a staff member, who advised me to ignore her. However that doesn't stop the issue of players being able to use the tournament pages to harrass others. One suggestion I can think of would be that TDs be in charge of moderating tournament homepages and have to approve posts before being published. The other would be that violators have the privilege of posting removed. This would keep the tournament pages friendly and free of negative communication from players that have been blocked from other forms of communication. As to personal homepages, if used for personal attacks, perhaps all content could be removed and that person forbid from making any changes on it or posting on others homepages. What I'm hoping is accomplished is that chess.com be a friendly site and muzzle those who choose to be unfriendly.Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions? I anticipate there will be at least one who will charge me with being a whiner, go ahead, I have big shoulders.
sftac
... have discussed it with a staff member, who advised me to ignore her. However that doesn't stop the issue of players being able to use the tournament pages to harrass others. ...... What I'm hoping is accomplished is that chess.com be a friendly site and muzzle those who choose to be unfriendly.Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions? I anticipate there will be at least one who will charge me with being a whiner, go ahead, I have big shoulders.
Sure, you're whining but that's o.k., this is already a friendly site able to accept a few whiners posting on the forums.
Behind the scenes, I'm confident that abusers are being tracked and given enough rope to hang themselves (either in loss of posting privileges or ultimately in cancellation of their accounts).
ps. I urge you to not obsess over bad behaviour, else you'll gain the impression this is not a friendly site. Which, wouldn't be so bad in itself (it's a free world, after all), but you might keep posting about your 'impressions' and that's a downer for readers (imo).
pps. Some readers might take offense at your own homepage remarks (the allusion to excrement being left for them).
checkmateibeatu
She's not out to "'catch'" you if you are not a cheater.
ivandh
Wow that is a really long post.
It is, indeed.
AndyClifton
Long and kinda whiny too.
TheGrobe
If this player actually is sandbagging then (s)he can and should be reported for cheating.
Oh, I meant that I can't be caught in the tournament, and she is left with being second place....whatever else could you be referring to?
Your avatar's image (see below) of a steaming 'something' just behind the departing cat. Along with your remark "I left you a prize of number 2".
Is it just me, or is you saying "uncatchable" about yourself and making this thread suggesting that you are a cheater?
I have no idea how sandbagging, as I knew it from OTB days, could apply here. My definition of sandbagging is losing games to drop your rating so you can enter a class tournament with a large prize fund increasing your odds of winning. No cash prizes here, so what would be the point.
I'm guessing that the reason some might throw away their first few games is to be able to make the required number of games to enter a tournament. When a mate of mine told me about this club he was playing in a tournament. I went to join one and was denied because I had to complete five games first. I played honourably and missed the deadline. The next tournament I tried to join I was denied because I hadn't completed ten games! I finally figured out how to read the requirements and joined the one I'm presently in. Noting that some literally lose several games in the beginning then come on strong suggests to me that they either figure out what to do on the first day or are starting up a new account after a previous one was closed.
Sorry for the long posts, wasn't aware there is a limit to length. I'm even more sorry that perhaps someone is holding a gun to your head forcing you to read them.
I assumed "catch" by my opponent meant to win our other game and hope for a chance to win the tournament. My opponent hasn't accused me of cheating, just not playing fast enough even though I was playing in the time controls.
I started the thread to see if there was any support, from members or staff, to put an end to the behaviour of using tournament homepages to harrass other players. And that would include myself.
sftac-
I put the smiley/wink there for a reason. I'm fully aware of the double entendre and yes it was deliberate.
Sorry for the long posts, wasn't aware there is a limit to length.
There isn't. There is however a limit to human endurance.
Exactly.
PrawnEatsPrawn
I'd say that you give as good as you get:
http://www.chess.com/tournament/sweet-16
(I have super-human endurance, so I read the lot )
Wow Prawn, you are superhuman (but then, I always expected that was true).
The 'smiley/wink' is absent from the place (your profile) where visitors would view the potentially offensive material (avatar + remark).
dirkberni
Hi Catsnapper: you are aware that I know the players in question myself. He/she acts in the old style: "attack is the best defense". He attacks and abuses lots of players, but covers behind a photo of a pretty young girl and has therefore LOTS of defenders (you know, mainly players who are better at cybersex than at chess).Yes, she is a he and does NOT live in Latin America and yes, his homepage photos are proven downloads from the internet.
I guess there is no possibility to control paying members once they have decided to live their schizophrenia and/or other mental issues in chess.com. So far, I withdrew from all tournaments (actually 3) in which she/he was registered as well.
I would like to start a topic about "whining about whining". I came across these professional "I will call you a whiner" whiners, who use nearly every topic to accuse the topic creator to be a whiner. I believe they just suffer from delusional whinosis and might need help as much as this he/she from Latin America/Millwall
Best wishes
Dirk
oinquarki
Sounds hot; what's her username?
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