Now I mean to stop people from complaining about the position not being reachable. The point of a puzzle is not to have it stored in your memory so that when it pops up you can use it.The point of it is to your expand brain to a higher level of thinking and improve your play.Just a reminder to be happy with what you have.

I swear I thought I saw this problem somewhere before...

   Interesting.

I have posted this puzzle before but where I said it you have to go back to see it

i got it - thanks for posting~

a nice puzzle, and I like your point too

Good puzzle.  You have to keep checking because black has mate in one.  Nice.

Nice and easy

onewho_dies wrote:

Now I mean to stop people from complaining about the position not being reachable. The point of a puzzle is not to have it stored in your memory so that when it pops up you can use it.The point of it is to your expand brain to a higher level of thinking and improve your play.Just a reminder to be happy with what you have.

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 Firstly, I don't see how the position is not reachable. I've seen much worse in chess puzzles and on real chess boards. Secondly, a chess puzzle should attempt to replicate a position that can be achieved over the board. Of what use is wracking your brain to work out a puzzle that has no value in the real world because you'll never see a position even remotely close in actual play? Chess puzzles where one side has 6 knights and the other has 6 bishops are ludicrous because you'll never encounter that in a real game so attempting to solve them teaches you little that can be applied in the real world.

Marshal_Dillon, I agree to a certain extent but what I'm trying to say is that people should stop complaining.

Marshal_Dillon wrote:

Of what use is wracking your brain to work out a puzzle that has no value in the real world because you'll never see a position even remotely close in actual play? ... so attempting to solve them teaches you little that can be applied in the real world.

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 Do you really think chess puzzles will help you in the real world? Well, unless you're a GM, its unlikely to help. People solve and create puzzles for fun and as a challenge. Not in a futile quest to work out how to win from any possible position.

i got sometime like this before... its quite easy anyway

sb3700 wrote:Marshal_Dillon wrote:

Of what use is wracking your brain to work out a puzzle that has no value in the real world because you'll never see a position even remotely close in actual play? ... so attempting to solve them teaches you little that can be applied in the real world.

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 Do you really think chess puzzles will help you in the real world? Well, unless you're a GM, its unlikely to help. People solve and create puzzles for fun and as a challenge. Not in a futile quest to work out how to win from any possible position.

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 The point of tactical puzzles are to train you to look for certain motifs that you can use in real games, such as mating combinations, forks like this and so on. If you have a "fun" puzzle, or one that will never appear on a chess board (eg with more pieces) then it won't help your chess playing ability, some people will find it fun and some won't. Just admit that it won't though, instead of trying to make it sound like some lofty purpose.

very easy, indeed. Since white HAS NO OTHER move than 1. Qf8+.

Then, since 1....R:f8, 2. R:f8+ Kh7, 2. Ng5 Kg6, 3. N:h3 R:h6 is dismissed immediately, the only other choice for black is 1....Kh7. But this loses also: 2. Ng5+ Kg6, 3. N:h3, and now either 3....R:h3, 4. Q:c8, or 3....Tc1+, 4. Ng1.

Short and few variants, and no hidden ideas. 

exactly

onewho_dies wrote:

Now I mean to stop people from complaining about the position not being reachable. The point of a puzzle is not to have it stored in your memory so that when it pops up you can use it.The point of it is to your expand brain to a higher level of thinking and improve your play.Just a reminder to be happy with what you have.

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ahhaha nice!! white eventually won the game. I'd play you but your rating is too low ha ha ha ha just kidding man  bring it on anytime.