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5th November 2008, 11:05pm
#21
by normajeanyates
london [often in calcutta india] England
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 2597
  wrote:

Normajean...it's an opening - The Ukulele Opening! 1 d4 f6 2 g3 g6 3 a3...Almost a Reti, almost a Grob, but based on the key of E major! Gives white an advantage. Check opening explorer, and leads to an intriguing game for intuative players.


listen, c****p, this is off-topic. The more so on my lyrics-blog. Not to say that it is horse manure, the 'opening'.

But may be horse manure is your favourite breakfast? Well, who am I to complain? none of my business.

5th November 2008, 11:15pm
#22
by chessmagic5
Melbourne City, Australia Philippines
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 247
arunchess wrote:

Why anyone will pay for a win ? And if you really wish to get point for money I am sure many players will resign if you offer a fraction of $ 200 !  Instead  cash prize money tournaments can be much better idea.


 Cash prize money tournaments? Now that's a spectacular idea!!! Count me in when its starting :-)

Seriously. Yeah!

5th November 2008, 11:17pm
#23
by normajeanyates
london [often in calcutta india] England
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 2597
brandonQDSH wrote:

All in all, if you're worried that timing out will hurt your turn-based rating, spend more than 5-15 minutes analyzing any given position, and you're will to pay $200 to earn like 20 points that you could just as easily earn by not sucking, then you're probably not a very good player. 


That is not the bloody point. It is the principle of the thing. For the record, I have all wins except for one draw on move 13 against a weak player (1800-ish) where I offered a draw in an absolutely equal position out of sheer boredom - you think I couldn't have created chances against someone 200 points below me (then)?? - and I knowingly dropped 46 points - and dropped below 2000 - by offering that draw.

And my two running games are 15 days/move - one trivial win but opp won't move until last moment, other one I have a clear advantage. These are probably the last two games I'll be playing here. Because of the nature of the clientele that has infested this site since I joined, and because I have since found *civilised* sites - shelled out £1000 for life membership in one of them last week. NOT because of erik, who I have no complaint against so far. Well, except minor ones - which I have not posted and will not.

6th November 2008, 12:58pm
#24
by yavuz1990
Istanbul Turkey
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 88

I agree, an opponent may become a real jerk sometimes and do everything possible not to lose points including waiting for the last moments in certainly lost games!! But I love to crush those opponents slowly and painfully! I would love them to suffer the game till the end!(means months of suffering for them not me!)

6th November 2008, 09:40pm
#25
by normajeanyates
london [often in calcutta india] England
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 2597
MrZugzwang wrote:

Normajean -- Here's hoping you don't get fed up and leave the site altogether.  It will be a less interesting place without your POV 


Don't worry - the only way I'll leave is by being thrown out. I've been taking notes since I have been a member - IF and WHEN I am thrown out, I'll have an article ready for publication pronto :)

7th November 2008, 01:06am
#26
by Zenchess
Omaha United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 391

Having auto-timeout protection and more vacation time gives you 2 very clear advantages.  (I'm kind of sad to see this post has degenerated like this, but I'll make my point again)

#1 I lost many, many games before I was a subscriber to timing out.  In fact the entire system seems to be designed to time you out - you only get a warning about the game being over 8 hours before it's over.  While some people may check their email twice a day, I'm sure there's lots of people who don't.  Hopefully my suggestion to let the player set a different timer on the reminder will be implemented (or has been already, I don't check up on these things).

#2 It has been proven throughout history that if a player can prolong a game at his whim it gives him a HUGE advantage.  I'm talking HUGE.  There was a famous go game between go seigen and another guy - the other guy could adjourn the game at any time and think about his move for as long as he wanted. The entire match lasted about 5 months or so. 

Here is a scenario:  You're in a very, very complicated position.  Instead of having to move at the end of your 3 day period, you'd rather have a month or so to think it over.  Your opponent, who is not a subscriber, always has 3 days to think over his move.  More time to think over a move = more potential quality to the moves. 

Then again, if non-subscribers also get a lot of vacation time (i think i get something like 1 month + 20 days or something) then I retract my above statement.

Hopefully this thread can stop being about personal attacks ...

7th November 2008, 06:05am
#27
by normajeanyates
london [often in calcutta india] England
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 2597
Zenchess wrote:

Having auto-timeout protection and more vacation time gives you 2 very clear advantages.  (I'm kind of sad to see this post has degenerated like this, but I'll make my point again)

#1 I lost many, many games before I was a subscriber to timing out.  In fact the entire system seems to be designed to time you out - you only get a warning about the game being over 8 hours before it's over.  While some people may check their email twice a day, I'm sure there's lots of people who don't.  Hopefully my suggestion to let the player set a different timer on the reminder will be implemented (or has been already, I don't check up on these things).

#2 It has been proven throughout history that if a player can prolong a game at his whim it gives him a HUGE advantage.  I'm talking HUGE.  There was a famous go game between go seigen and another guy - the other guy could adjourn the game at any time and think about his move for as long as he wanted. The entire match lasted about 5 months or so. 

Here is a scenario:  You're in a very, very complicated position.  Instead of having to move at the end of your 3 day period, you'd rather have a month or so to think it over.  Your opponent, who is not a subscriber, always has 3 days to think over his move.  More time to think over a move = more potential quality to the moves. 

Then again, if non-subscribers also get a lot of vacation time (i think i get something like 1 month + 20 days or something) then I retract my above statement.

Hopefully this thread can stop being about personal attacks ...


Thanks, this *was* the whole point of my starting this thread! Good to see it elaborated so well by a platinum-premium member ...

And no, non-subscribers do *not* get extra vacation time.

I never said there were *no* reasonable people on this site :)

There is only one sentence that I do not agree with, and that one is in zenchess's *earlier* post, *not* the one I quoted in this post. Unlike zenchess, my perception is that this site is *not* constantly improving. (Actually, my perception is stronger - namely - au contraire. )

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