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The Communist Utopia


  • 14 months ago · #1

    TheBigDecline

    If all the Premium Membership benefits for paying members would be made available to everybody, what would you do different? Would you be spending more time here? Play more games or watch more videos than now?

    In all honesty I can say, I would do nothing different. I used to imagine myself having access to all these cool videos out there, becoming a better player by the minute while eating potato chips and let the GM on the computer screen do the magic ... but now I realized I'm way too lazy for improvement and maybe just not destined to be an above-average Chess player.

  • 14 months ago · #2

    jimbob67

    my thoughts exactly ;0)

  • 14 months ago · #3

    abnoxio

    well....I try to watch videos when I can, but yeah, you make a good point.

  • 14 months ago · #4

    trysts

    There are far too many resources which are free already for the person who wants to be a strong chess player. Chess.com's resources are for convenience--helpfulness in one place.

  • 14 months ago · #5

    richie_and_oprah

    TheBigDecline wrote:

    If all the Premium Membership benefits for paying members would be made available to everybody, what would you do different? Would you be spending more time here? Play more games or watch more videos than now?

    In all honesty I can say, I would do nothing different. I used to imagine myself having access to all these cool videos out there, becoming a better player by the minute while eating potato chips and let the GM on the computer screen do the magic ... but now I realized I'm way too lazy for improvement and maybe just not destined to be an above-average Chess player.

    quite frankly i dont see any benefit at being that much better at a game to begin with


    in addition, once one realizes that strong chess skills are more innate than learned it takes away a lot of incentive for most to do any hard work for a game
     

  • 14 months ago · #6

    rooperi

    The only reason I have gold is to play more tournaments. When my games get fewer than 15 or 20, I just enter a few tourneys, and soon it's back up to 30 or 40 :)

  • 14 months ago · #7

    LongIslandMark

    Online access to old games is nice. "free" folks can only see a few weeks back.

  • 14 months ago · #8

    watcha

    I think what is truly valuable at this site is the Tactics Trainer, Chess Mentor, Game Analysis. With the Platinum membership you get the necessary access to these (Tactics Trainer unlimited, Chess Mentor 5/day, Game Analysis 25/week). This has the best value/money ratio since there are tons of free videos on the net and you don't need unlimited Chess Mentor lessons and Game Analysis. All in all Platinum membership makes a real difference for the average user compared to free membership but Diamond compared to Platinum does not. I feel I have made the right choice when opting for Platinum.

  • 14 months ago · #9

    owltuna

    Access to your old games and game archive of opponents is the most useful benefit. Next is increased use of Tactics Trainer, and Chess Mentor is nice. Post-game analysis not so much, I do that with engines running in Arena, which allows you to concentrate on the parts of the game where you spent a lot of worry about the right move. I agree that Platinum is the best bang for the buck.

  • 14 months ago · #10

    DrSpudnik

    rooperi wrote:

    The only reason I have gold is to play more tournaments. When my games get fewer than 15 or 20, I just enter a few tourneys, and soon it's back up to 30 or 40 :)

    I get my little star to avoid crappy little pop-up ads. The other stuff is sometimes marginally amusing.

  • 14 months ago · #11

    rooperi

    True story, not much to do with communism, but but illustrating that chess transcends class.

    In the 1980's, South Africa was very much a racially segregated society.

    You would not see a non-white face in national rugby or cricket teams, and at club level, these cluns were segregated. You had white clubs, and black clubs. The never or hardly ever even competed agains each other.

    But in the middle to early 80's Johannesburg Chess club had many players of all races. Arthur Kobese (father of Watu, who so nearly became a GM, just couldn't get that last norm, but that's another story...) was an efficient and active member of the club committee.

    At tournaments all races were present, I cannot think of any other sport/activity that was so integrated.

    No white person EVER went into Soweto....

    Except us chessplayers who supported Arhur's tournaments at Funda Centre and were very graciously welcomed there.

  • 14 months ago · #12

    macer75

    Guys... this thread isn't about Communism. Read what the OP is saying. Don't judge a thread by it's title!

  • 14 months ago · #13

    DavidStyles

    macer75 wrote:

    Guys... this thread isn't about Communism. Read what the OP is saying. Don't judge a thread by it's title!

    It is now. Try to keep up :p

    The topic was consciously and deliberately switched to something more interesting that the OP's odd question about whether people would use the extra features if given them for free.

  • 14 months ago · #14

    owltuna

    Ironic to see objections about a thread getting hijacked to its topic.

  • 14 months ago · #15

    watcha

    The only thing that should be avoided is nihilism. Tactics Trainer is good. Period.

    Tactics Trainer improves your game if it is free and improves it if you have to pay for it.

    I would be glad if Tactics Trainer (and some other features) were free. And would use them of course and would be happy with a free membership. I need no crown or diamond or anything else beside my name. I just want my Tactics Trainer.

    But to argue that Tactics Trainer is an aristocratic or eggheaded thing just because at this particular site you have to pay for it is nonsense.

    You have to separate what are good things and how you gain access to those good things. The first part is not a question of politics the second is politics itself.

  • 14 months ago · #16

    macer75

    TheGambitKing wrote:
    owltuna wrote:

    Ironic to see objections about a thread getting hijacked to its topic.

    There will always be a struggle to effect a change for the good of all, by those who have been exploiting the freedom of all for the good of a few.

    Once again, your response has nothing to do with the post you were responding to.

  • 14 months ago · #17

    watcha

    TheGambitKing:

    There is 'positional trainer' too (Chess Mentor in many ways is a positional trainer). I just used Tactics Trainer as an example. You can substitute Tactics Trainer for Chess Mentor ('Positional Trainer') and my argument remains the same.

    Things have intrinsic value independent of their price. This is my point.

  • 14 months ago · #18

    macer75

    Savage wrote:
    TheGambitKing wrote:
    It makes sense that someone from Australia, one of the most unruly, materialist, corporate-dominated nations on earth, would say such a thing.

    I know, it's a living hell. Kim Jong-un is processing my immigration application as I type.

    Wow GambitKing.... congratulations, you just insulted an entire nation.

  • 14 months ago · #19

    owltuna

    Savage wrote:
    TheGambitKing wrote:
    It makes sense that someone from Australia, one of the most unruly, materialist, corporate-dominated nations on earth, would say such a thing.

    I know, it's a living hell. Kim Jong-un is processing my immigration application as I type.

    Post of the day. It's a keeper. Laughing 

  • 14 months ago · #20

    macer75

    Now all we need is to have SupremeOverlord comment on this.


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