When to give trophies and why

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3rd May 2009, 01:27pm
#1
by Niven42
West Lafayette, Indiana United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1243

Do you think that the current trophies are given too trivially, or that the trophies selection seems too limited?

Ok, specifically, I'm having a problem with the site's trophies.  My thinking goes like this:  Trophies are typically given to the winner of a game, but many people on the site enjoy giving a trophy to anyone they play, even when the recipient was the losing player.  However, if you look at the trophies available to give after a game, not only are most of them geared towards being presented to the winner, there are many trophies that appear to be appropriate only if they were presented at the beginning of the game! (q.v. "Let's have a Chess Battle", "Let's Duel", "Are you ready to play?", etc.)  My feeling is that Chess.com should re-visit the trophies and make small changes to the captions so that they 1. are appropriate to either winning or losing, and 2. that they address the performance of the game after being concluded; not worded so as to be issued at the beginning of a game.  I believe these small changes will make game trophies more desirable, and maybe even make them a little less trivial.

Your comments are welcome!

3rd May 2009, 01:56pm
#2
by corum
Leeds England
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 349

good points

3rd May 2009, 02:11pm
#3
by ASpieboy
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Canada
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 1392

I agree.

3rd May 2009, 02:16pm
#4
by xqsme
Lanarkshire (GMT/UTC)+rT Scotland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 2848

It would be very good also to be able to send a Trophy to people who go out of their way to help newbies on difficulties  submitted via forums ,message means etc. Also to  know the staff opinion  on   who are most helpfull  would be interesting.

4th May 2009, 05:41am
#5
by nightmare_jx16
(Currently living in the UK) Philippines
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 1261

I agree to your point. I recommend that chess.com should do some changes on the caption of the trophies.

4th May 2009, 05:46am
#6
by OccasionallyGood
Johnson's Ghut British Virgin Islands
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 76

I look at the trophies as just being sort of a formal "Thank You" card. Some people send thank you cards, some don't. And of course, not all pre-printed thank yous are going to capture the exact essence of your sentiment -- you can just add anything you'd like to write.

Personally, I get a kick out of the backhanded trophies, like "I slipped." It's like saying, "You didn't beat me -- I beat myself." Too funny...

4th May 2009, 02:20pm
#7
by derUbermensch
DC United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 203

A rough guide to my criteria.

 

If I lose, I almost always send a trophy unless there was some reason not to, such as being rude in chat.

If I win, I will send a trophy for the following reasons:

Player was very friendly in chat and it was an enjoyable game (usually gets the good sportsman trophy or the good game one).

If despite the loss, it was still an very well played game and I want to express this sentiment.

4th May 2009, 02:23pm
#8
by AtahanT
Sweden
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 301

I think there should be a couple more alternatives

4th May 2009, 03:16pm
#9
by paul211
Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1817

I also struggle to send a trophy to someone that I enjoyed playing with and who did loose the game.

Reality comes into play here and a selection for trophies in 2 groupings the winners and the loosers could be an alternative.

And possibly on this post people could suggest ideas for a trophy to a looser.

For instance:

1. You fought to the end and deserve a mention.

2. Your opening surprised me!

3. Your middle game was unexpected.

4. You played you best game against me, can we try again?

5. Where did you get this line of play?

6. Your best bet would be to play it safe not to attack.

7. You ship hit shallows waters.

8. You are a shark with missing teeths.

9. Don't feel sorry. I have been there before and many times.

10. Your next game I know will be better from what you have learned in this game.

11. If I may make a suggestion. play with me again.

12. Red roses are not for chess.

13. You failed, then try again. All successes come with trial and error.

14. You started like a wolf and finished like a lamb.

15. The next game will make you better, trust me.

Only a few suggestions for a trophy to a looser, maybe others can add and we can suggest images or icons to represent the idea.

4th May 2009, 03:37pm
#10
by El_Gremio
Puerto Rico
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 1103

i give them away!

heck! they're free!

4th May 2009, 03:37pm
#11
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 4603

I've given "Sorry About the Blunder" from either side of a blunder.  I think it's meant to be given to the person who blundered, but I've given it out when I've screwed up a really good game with a really bad move.

4th May 2009, 03:46pm
#12
by Beelzebub666
Great Britain
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 378

They seem fairly pointless to me, I generally just send one if someone sends me one.

4th May 2009, 03:57pm
#13
by socket2me
Ft. Collins, Colorado United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 538

 The possibilities above are really not even worth sending.  There is no genuinity from it.  They should just keep it basic with good game, I surrender, etc.  They have too many dumb and off the subject "trophies."

4th May 2009, 04:01pm
#14
by CPawn
Sacramento, California United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 777

I have given a trophey to every player i have played.  Its a sign of respect and shows sportsmaship

4th May 2009, 04:14pm
#15
by legodood
Alta Vista Belize
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 939

I agree

4th May 2009, 04:30pm
#16
by StonedEmoKid
Kansas City United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 655

yes, i agree

4th May 2009, 04:41pm
#17
by socket2me
Ft. Collins, Colorado United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 538
CPawn wrote:

I have given a trophey to every player i have played.  Its a sign of respect and shows sportsmaship


 Not doubting your intention.  But who would you rather get a trophy from?  A person who gives one to everyone regardless of the game? Or, the person who only gives out a handfull of trophies? 

Which one is a sign of respect with more weight behind???

4th May 2009, 04:58pm
#18
by Icanfight
TN United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 53

The trophies on here are so lame it's pathetic. Who came up with these things?

I like the ones on letsplaychess. A beer, glass of wine,handshake,etc

4th May 2009, 06:34pm
#19
by CPawn
Sacramento, California United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 777
socket2me wrote:
CPawn wrote:

I have given a trophey to every player i have played.  Its a sign of respect and shows sportsmaship


 Not doubting your intention.  But who would you rather get a trophy from?  A person who gives one to everyone regardless of the game? Or, the person who only gives out a handfull of trophies? 

Which one is a sign of respect with more weight behind???


To me they are both a sign of respect and good sportsmanship.  I dont think it diminishes the intention just because one person gives more than someone else.

4th May 2009, 06:50pm
#20
by TheMachineKiller
AL United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 136

I think the second place ribbon is a great one.  I've given that one to someone who was rude in chat.

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