# 12/29/2012 - Long Calculation

• 21 months ago · Quote · #141

I recognised the setup for the Tarrasch Trap (interestingly, I was reading about it only last night) but it'd be bragging to say I worked it all out in advance.

As always, it's amusing to read the comments from people who think they know better than Tarrasch or Marco.

• 21 months ago · Quote · #142
jaechungrox wrote:

Was all of the moves for black in this puzzle forced? I'm sure that in at least one of the 11 moves in the problem, black could have played an alternative line to go on with an equal position.

• 21 months ago · Quote · #143

Long One :)

• 21 months ago · Quote · #144

very long one, however, i managed to solve it with no errors.

• 21 months ago · Quote · #145

long tough one today

• 21 months ago · Quote · #146

so very long

• 21 months ago · Quote · #147

Anyone said easy?

took more than 4 mins

• 21 months ago · Quote · #148

Just lack 11.... Nd3 12 cxd5 Nxe1 13 Rxe1 Kf7 and 14 Bb4 or Bh4

• 21 months ago · Quote · #149

Wowowowo! Awesome!!!!!!!

• 21 months ago · Quote · #150
vishalbhat wrote:

first page

very complicated only solved 85% of problem

You can't solve 85%. It is how you say in mate in 4 I solved 3 moves

• 21 months ago · Quote · #151
giants_14 wrote:

Why did the puzzle end there and not before/after? .... good puzzle: typical for a Saturday.

The puzzle ended there because white has just forced a piece win that black can no longer save with any defensive or counter measures.

• 21 months ago · Quote · #152

Some of the toughest puzzles to solve are ones where the puzzle outcome is greater for the winning side than, with best play on both sides, it really should be.  Black had opportunities on moves 2 and 4 to remain only down a pawn, and probably be down positionally as well, but not losing a clear piece.

• 21 months ago · Quote · #153

nice problem... I hope that the staff posts more problems like these.

• 21 months ago · Quote · #154

nice but very long for a daily puzzle!

• 21 months ago · Quote · #155
Bryan681972 wrote:

Some of the toughest puzzles to solve are ones where the puzzle outcome is greater for the winning side than, with best play on both sides, it really should be.  Black had opportunities on moves 2 and 4 to remain only down a pawn, and probably be down positionally as well, but not losing a clear piece.

Probably because Marco didn't fancy playing a pawn down in a clear position against Tarrasch, and hoped to find a saving resource somewhere in the ensuing complications (which are far from clear unless you have seen this before).

• 21 months ago · Quote · #156

predictable!! :P

• 21 months ago · Quote · #157

should i call this a puzzle or a long game. hmmm

• 21 months ago · Quote · #158

Definitely Long.

SZ.

• 21 months ago · Quote · #159

couldnt get the last move

• 21 months ago · Quote · #160

What happens on 3...Rf8xd8 ? How does White wins material on 3...Rf8xd8 ? Because the game continuation will not work with 3...Rf8xd8

Retifan found it:

3...Rf8xd8 4.Nxe5 Bxe4 5.Nxe4 Nxe4 6.Nd3 f5 7.f3 Bc5+ 8.Kf1!