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2/10/2012 - Mate in 5


  • 16 months ago · Quote · #141

    enimche

    Noob question - it seems the idea of a puzzle is that every move is forced, correct? If so I must be failing to see why certain moves are forced, unless the eventual other check mates were 3 - 4 moves deep... in which case, alternative solutions to puzzles? 

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #142

    knightmare33

     I agree with you enimche moves were not forced and I would say there were better moves for white  .. and black for that matter.  Maybe I am wrong.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #143

    Bryan681972

    Sweet puzzle.  Solved it in my head without any help.  First comes the delecting rook sacrifice.  Next comes the key move (move #1 was key also, but move #2 was harder to find as it was not a check) which creates the mating net.  Then comes the necessary capture after black's attempt to prolong the game.  Finally, after black's best attempt to make white's checkmate harder to find, the one-two knockout combination, check and checkmate!

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #144

    TheSkyBluePN3

    I played this puzzle against Houdini 1.5, and it only gave a mate in 4.

    Me white, and Houdini black.

    It's not important but I wonder Houdini chose to end up this earlier by 2 ... Bd6 not 2... Be7 so here come up 3. Qa8+ Bb8 4. Qxb8#

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #145

    MichaelGosselin

    freebie wrote:

    Can someone please tell me why black queen couldn't defend by moving to C7 on move #2?


    Qa8+ and mate to follow.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #146

    justinwr092

    Frikkin hard.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #147

    Philip-B

    freebie wrote:

    Can someone please tell me why black queen couldn't defend by moving to C7 on move #2?


    Qb5+.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #148

    Bryan681972

    Very interesting how one white rook and the white knight, which is actually threatening a check, have absolutely nothing to due with the puzzle solution.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #149

    NGC_1947

    Azkadaz wrote:

     

    I take my previous comment back about this being a terrible puzzle. I decided to sit down and analyze it, and what looked like a simply ridiculous game actually turned out to be an engaging, assertive puzzle. This was not passive like I originally thought, but every move was essentially forced. Bravo for making me reach an epiphany.

    Wouldn't it be great if Chess.com gave such an analysis after the puzzle?

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #150

    Bryan681972

    enimche wrote:

    Noob question - it seems the idea of a puzzle is that every move is forced, correct? If so I must be failing to see why certain moves are forced, unless the eventual other check mates were 3 - 4 moves deep... in which case, alternative solutions to puzzles? 

    Incorrect.  Every move does not have to be forced in puzzles, or chess in general.  That is a strong factor in the beauty of chess and a strong factor in the difficulty of mastering the game.


  • 16 months ago · Quote · #151

    vijayakumarlazarus

    good one

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #152

    The_Chess_Ninja

    its okay

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #153

    stephen_33

    Quite a brain-teaser with enough variations to keep you interested long after solving. The only move that spoils it is Qxg3-just seems desperate. (I still think last Saturday's one was the best I've seen)

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #154

    Bryan681972

    milray101 wrote:

    but why not fxg3 instead of hxg3, that opens the rook support as well...

    3. fxg3 allows 3...Bc5+.  If 4. Kh1 or 4. Kg2 then 4...Rf6 blocks the f-file, preventing a white checkmate on the next move.  If 4. Qxc5 then 4...Rf6 or 4...Rxg5, prevents the immediate checkmate.  If my analysis is incorrect, please feel free to correct me. Thanks.


  • 16 months ago · Quote · #155

    Jeffmon

    @albatross21- It seems your starting position is from move 2 in the puzzle given. That would be why Houdini found a mate in 4. But I find it mildly interesting Houdini would choose Bd6 over Be7. I wonder which move is actually better in hoping white won't find Qa8.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #156

    jhoe_string

    WOW!

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #157

    bobhrn

    two tries,good one

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #158

    Frankdawg

    Interesting puzzle however I don't see many people thinking out a position like that so much. 1.Rb8+ is an interesting deflection of the queen however 1.Qa8+ is how I would play that position in any game unless I had an extremely long time to think about it.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #159

    freebie

    uksofiane wrote:
    freebie wrote:

    Can someone please tell me why black queen couldn't defend by moving to C7 on move #2?


    Mate in four

     white will play 3.Qa8 - Qd7 4. Qxd7


     Thanks.  Gotta have coffee before I do these!

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #160

    massimoforti

    freebie wrote:

    Can someone please tell me why black queen couldn't defend by moving to C7 on move #2?


     probably because Nd6 on next move would give checkmate to black.


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