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2/18/2012 - Adams - Torre, New Orleans 1925


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #221

    Brannit

    long and difficult

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #222

    TheSkyBluePN3

    It is hard

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #223

    caniecane

    not easy for me never the less logical

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #224

    Zalmeth

    smokeys wrote:

    Does everyone need to say the same damn thing over and over? First and nice are just lame. Any respectable board would consider that spam and deal with posts and posters who make those posts as they should be dealt with.

    The spam ruins any chance of good discussion occuring about a daily problem.


    Here here

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #225

    rj011788

    one the best puzzles i've ever seen...

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #226

    TALminator

    Interesting ideas about this puzzle:

    Even though white continues to offer up the queen, she's not disposable.  For example, if 1...Qd8 or Qc7, 2. Qxc8 wins for white because black needs an equal number of defenders to counter white's rook pair (when it's white's turn).

    However, if after 2....Qb5 white plays 3. Qxc8, white loses because of 3...Rxc8 because black still has 2 pieces defending e8 after the exchange.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #227

    jaminfine

    Ok, it is obvious why black cannot take white's queen, but could someone explain to me why black could not have pushed a pawn to allow his king an escape? Or possibly move the king a space closer to the rook to defend it? What are the problems with those moves?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #228

    golechhasandeep

    very very very very very very very very Good

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #229

    KafkasDisciple

    Very difficult for me - but many of the comments helped me see the point! Many thanbks to many of you for posting.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #230

    alhern

    Very difficult & interesting, but we can see soon the point.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #231

    NGC_1947

    jaminfine wrote:

    Ok, it is obvious why black cannot take white's queen, but could someone explain to me why black could not have pushed a pawn to allow his king an escape? Or possibly move the king a space closer to the rook to defend it? What are the problems with those moves?


     I was wondering the same thing......

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #232

    ampyun86

    jaminfine wrote:

    Ok, it is obvious why black cannot take white's queen, but could someone explain to me why black could not have pushed a pawn to allow his king an escape? Or possibly move the king a space closer to the rook to defend it? What are the problems with those moves?


    Because the Black queen has no defender. If black moves a pawn then white just takes black's queen.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #233

    chessloveplayer

    ni

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #234

    rhynox136

    it didn't come to me that black queen to g4 isn't a good option. a very nice puzzle. haha! really hard. :))

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #235

    DanielRaj

    Looking ordinary position ,but nice solution for this game

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #236

    cctars

    only frist move :/

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #237

    PapadeNaty

    Fail....sorry...

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #238

    oneomega

    i think white did it the long way.why didn't he kill the rook at c8 at the second step.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #239

    Abdullahalfarooq

    brain storming for beginners

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #240

    RenataCFC

    melvinbluestone wrote:
    RenataCFC wrote:
    melvinbluestone wrote:
    RenataCFC wrote:

    NM I'm not sure again.


     No, I think you're right. After 2.a4 Qxe2 3.Rxe2 Rc1+! (not 3...Rxe2?) 4.R or Ne1 and black mates on e1 next move. Nice. I guess Adams knew something about this game....


    Ok, and that threat doesn't work on 4. a4 because the white queen is now blocking the c-rook's path to c1.  All right.  Now what happens if black takes e2 at that point anyway?


     4.a4 Rxe2 5.Qxc8+ (ah, the check!) Re8 6.RxR (that other rook is still on e1!) QxR 7.QxQ# ..............OR 4.a4 Qxe2 5.RxQ RxR (5...RxQ 6.RxR#) 6.QxR#. I need a drink... 


    What's confusing me is that it looks like at this point, black could have "escaped" with a queen for rook trade by taking the rook at e2 with his queen.  After white takes the queen, black is not forced to walk into checkmate by capturing queen or rook; he has other options.  Or what am I missing?  Because at the end of the given sequence in the puzzle, black loses his queen outright after moving to a4, right?

    Does white have a forced mate or clear rook capture after 4. ... qxe2 5. Rxe2, or did black play less than ideal moves?


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