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2/8/2014 - Out Of Luck


  • 19 months ago · Quote · #261

    RioBRChess

    MesbahJavid wrote:

    1...Qc1????????? retard move but creates very nice variation indeed!

    1...Qd8! but still loses.

    That was my point (sort of :-).

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #262

    RioBRChess

    Bryan681972 wrote:
    RioBRChess wrote:

    Thanks Roost1513.

    But why not 1. ... Qd8 ?

    1...Qd8 and black has lost a piece, right?

    Black is already a Knight down.  Once Queens were traded, White's rooks and Black's rooks are equivalently in back rows.

    Anyway, thanks for  replying.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #263

    RioBRChess

    Roost1513 wrote:
    RioBRChess wrote:

    Thanks Roost1513.

    But why not 1. ... Qd8 ?

    Without extensive analysis (there are too many variations that I do not want to have to think of this late at night), I see two possible continuations - trading queens so that Black is even more of a disadvantage materially than the main line, or Qc5 to block the black queen in (Qb6 would be an option for Black, however). If I had to choose right away, I would go with trading queens. When the White rooks develop (Black wouldn't be able to get much done in this period), a strong attack would be underway. 

    See above.  Black's condition *is* bad, but I am still not sure ... Qd8 would be a worse playing.

    (You edited your analysis, right?)  Thanks again.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #264

    BryanCFB

    RioBRChess wrote:
    Bryan681972 wrote:
    RioBRChess wrote:

    Thanks Roost1513.

    But why not 1. ... Qd8 ?

    1...Qd8 and black has lost a piece, right?

    Black is already a Knight down.  Once Queens were traded, White's rooks and Black's rooks are equivalently in back rows.

    Anyway, thanks for  replying.

    Yes.  1...Qc1+ is just a failed attempt by black to regain/win material which would lead to a winning position.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #265

    chapmanjjw

    1st pg for me as well

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #266

    RioBRChess

    Shippen wrote:

    I am beginning to wonder if some people actually understand the logic of chess, all these puzzles follow a logical process. The key to these puzzles is what you do on each move after black has moved not what black should have done but what white does in response. Only the first move usually is the only move and set up that way.

    You got a point, except that I make my play thinking of which would be the best reply for Black.  

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #267

    Shippen

    RioBRChess, yes in a normal game, whites first move on these puzzles are set up so that in general it's the only move that can be made then, black moves what do you do then, if black makes a weak move you play accordingly.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #268

    kashers

    Yes, I see that, Bryan. Well, I say that, but it took you to point it out to me. It's a shame, I guess, that the problem didn't go further by simply illustrating it. Thanks for doing so; it's finally clear to me.Embarassed

  • 17 months ago · Quote · #269

    Juncedan

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