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3/10/2012 - White to Draw


  • 16 months ago · Quote · #81

    brenosully

    please stop claiming first. So JV

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #82

    pawnstalkerz

    immpossible

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #83

    ndskykng

    gutartas wrote:
    ndskykng wrote:
    gutartas wrote:

    I hope, that can help a bit

    1. Bh3 Bxh3 ( 1... Qxh3 2. Rf2 Be6 3. Rc3 Qh6 ) 2. Rf2 Bxh2 3. Rc3 ( 3. Rxh2 Qe1# ) 3... Bf4 ( 3... Bd6 4. Rxh3 Qxh3+ ) 4. Rxh3 Qxh3+ 5. Kg1 e3 ( 5... Qg3+ 6. Rg2 ( 6. Kf1 Qh3+ 7. Rg2 Qh1+ 8. Rg1 Qh3+ 9. Rg2 ) 6... Qe1# ) 6. Rg2 Qh4 7. Nxe3 Qe1+ 8. Nf1 Ne5 9. Qc8 Be3+ 10. Kh2 Qh4+ 11. Qh3 Bf4+ 12. Rg3 Bxg3+ 13. Nxg3 Ng4+ 14. Kg2 Ne3+ 15. Kh2 Ng4+ 16. Kg2 g5 17. Qxh4+ gxh4 18. Nf1 h3+ ( 18... f5 19. a6 bxa6 20. bxa6 ) 19. Kxh3 Ne5 20. a6 Nd7 21. axb7


    I don't understand the reasoning behind 18. Nf1, taking it back to the edge of the board?

    Why wouldn't you play 18. Nf5, threatening 19. Nd6 and forking both those pawns?


    You are free to move any other. This is just a schematic study without computers analysis, to show a principal, what happens, if blacks avoids a draw


    Yes, but what happens is that if black avoids a draw and allows 18. Nf3 and 19. Nd6, it seems he's turned the drawn position into a lost position, by allowing the cluster of three passed pawns on the queenside, while White's king seems to have the kingside passed pawn under wraps pretty well.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #84

    Firewolf000

    What???

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #85

    1068bobibu

    hard for me, but i solved it :)

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #86

    leonela60596

    how is it a draw ?

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #87

    ndskykng

    gutartas wrote:
    ndskykng wrote:
    gutartas wrote:

    I hope, that can help a bit

    1. Bh3 Bxh3 ( 1... Qxh3 2. Rf2 Be6 3. Rc3 Qh6 ) 2. Rf2 Bxh2 3. Rc3 ( 3. Rxh2 Qe1# ) 3... Bf4 ( 3... Bd6 4. Rxh3 Qxh3+ ) 4. Rxh3 Qxh3+ 5. Kg1 e3 ( 5... Qg3+ 6. Rg2 ( 6. Kf1 Qh3+ 7. Rg2 Qh1+ 8. Rg1 Qh3+ 9. Rg2 ) 6... Qe1# ) 6. Rg2 Qh4 7. Nxe3 Qe1+ 8. Nf1 Ne5 9. Qc8 Be3+ 10. Kh2 Qh4+ 11. Qh3 Bf4+ 12. Rg3 Bxg3+ 13. Nxg3 Ng4+ 14. Kg2 Ne3+ 15. Kh2 Ng4+ 16. Kg2 g5 17. Qxh4+ gxh4 18. Nf1 h3+ ( 18... f5 19. a6 bxa6 20. bxa6 ) 19. Kxh3 Ne5 20. a6 Nd7 21. axb7


    I don't understand the reasoning behind 18. Nf1, taking it back to the edge of the board?

    Why wouldn't you play 18. Nf5, threatening 19. Nd6 and forking both those pawns?


    You are free to move any other. This is just a schematic study without computers analysis, to show a principal, what happens, if blacks avoids a draw


    And you don't need computer analysis to tell you that moving a Knight to the edge of the board is a bad idea, unless you have a good reason.  That's taught in beginners chess 101.  You must have a reason for cutting your Knight's places to move in half so explain your rationale for 18. Nf1

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #88

    darkeval

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  • 16 months ago · Quote · #89

    RenataCFC

    Halp.  I need an explanation of all the moves in this one in small words.  Gutartas' variations might prove enlightening given four or five days of study, but then again maybe not.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #90

    Evil_Master203

    iouioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #91

    Evil_Master203

    sorry i was just testing something

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #92

    -TheEgg

    I only know I know nothing

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #93

    VaBiker

    This was tough to do, tough to understand even with gutartas' analysis.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #94

    mart1

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #95

    pglye2002

    Cannot be a draw

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #96

    mraustinp

    Pretty sure this isn't a draw....Anyone care to work this out further?

    Clearly White's first move has to avoid checkmate... Options being what?

    bishop to h3
    pawn to h3

    Anything else? I think King to g1 will result in a win for black...Having looked that over closely but that is my first hunch.

    What is black's next move if playing for a win?

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #97

    jorgheb12

    wut...ummm...WUT?!

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #98

    Labfrog

    Tough

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #99

    edgy_rhinx

    Why not 1. .. Qxh3 ?!

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #100

    reffahc

    nice


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