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3/10/2012 - White to Draw


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #161

    rbombardier

    Sorry, but this is a no-contest.  Now way white gets a draw unless someone makes a terrible mistake.  Okay, now I'm last.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #162

    mohandisusa

    trying 2 analyze more of this puzzle...

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #163

    melvinbluestone

    ndskykng wrote:
    melvinbluestone wrote:

    @ndskykng 
    : "White isn't threatening anything? First off, take a glance at his queenside pawns, that can be turned in a hurry."  So after 1.Bh3 Bxe2, the threat is white's queenside pawns? So maybe white then plays 2.a6?? and hangs the rook on f1........ Come on! Show me a how white wins or even draws after 1...Bxe2!


    Where in the post did I say 2. a6?? Can you read?

    I said 2. Rf2 Bxd1 BUT that 3. Rxd1 was NOT forced.  I thought chess players were smarter.

    I suggested 3. Qxf7 start the assault on the queenside, bring a defender to the kingside attack AND prevent the f2 rook from being hung, which is what YOU wanted to do with 3. Rxd1

    The position isn't as simple as you're making it, and the pawns are a real threat once the kingside is neutralized.  Your move.


     Listen, Copernicus, (and I mean that in the most complimentary way) your post implies white has threats after 1.Bh3: "...take a glance at his queenside pawns". Well, I took a glance, and I still want to know what these pawns are gonna' do after 1...Bxe2. I figured you meant white could advance them, with, like maybe a6? But I guess you meant they were just gonna' sit there while white tries frantically to defend against BxR or BxN or Bf3+..........

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #164

    Kantor2100

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #165

    Twobit

    odd alright

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #166

    vladthemaster

    hard one

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #167

    checkmmm8

    too easy

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #168

    ndskykng

    melvinbluestone wrote:
    ndskykng wrote:
    melvinbluestone wrote:

    @ndskykng 
    : "White isn't threatening anything? First off, take a glance at his queenside pawns, that can be turned in a hurry."  So after 1.Bh3 Bxe2, the threat is white's queenside pawns? So maybe white then plays 2.a6?? and hangs the rook on f1........ Come on! Show me a how white wins or even draws after 1...Bxe2!


    Where in the post did I say 2. a6?? Can you read?

    I said 2. Rf2 Bxd1 BUT that 3. Rxd1 was NOT forced.  I thought chess players were smarter.

    I suggested 3. Qxf7 start the assault on the queenside, bring a defender to the kingside attack AND prevent the f2 rook from being hung, which is what YOU wanted to do with 3. Rxd1

    The position isn't as simple as you're making it, and the pawns are a real threat once the kingside is neutralized.  Your move.


     Listen, Copernicus, (and I mean that in the most complimentary way) your post implies white has threats after 1.Bh3: "...take a glance at his queenside pawns". Well, I took a glance, and I still want to know what these pawns are gonna' do after 1...Bxe2. I figured you meant white could advance them, with, like maybe a6? But I guess you meant they were just gonna' sit there while white tries frantically to defend against BxR or BxN or Bf3+..........


    White will advance them after the Kingside is taken care of like I said.

    BxR, BxN, Bf3+ aren't real threats

    I already said 3. Qxf7.  My defense is being set up, you still have yet to keep up an attack.  I said your move, and you ignored it.  Still thinking about how to deal with those pawns afterward I bet.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #169

    ChenGJ

    How is this a draw?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #170

    chessmasterYash

    _36darshan-- wrote:

    How is this a draw?


    i dont know

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #171

    AkshitaGorti

    A little to complicatedFrown but goodSmile

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #172

    dufferps

    There are too many possible variations in this puzzle for me to be convinced that we saw "best moves" on both sides.  In particular, I wonder about black's Bxh2 move. But others also seemed questionable.   I would need a long analysis to be satisfied that this was the best line.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #173

    melvinbluestone

    Caramba! You may be right, ndskykng. After 1.Bh3 Bxe2 2.Rf2 Bxd1 3.Qxf7 Bf3+ 4.Rxf3 exf3 5.Qxf3, black seems to have a lot of nothing. This is what happens when you try to do analysis and listen to the Grateful Dead at the same time......

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #174

    fastig

    immm. puzzle for draw? 

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #175

    ndskykng

    melvinbluestone wrote:

    Caramba! You may be right, ndskykng. After 1.Bh3 Bxe2 2.Rf2 Bxd1 3.Qxf7 Bf3+ 4.Rxf3 exf3 5.Qxf3, black seems to have a lot of nothing. This is what happens when you try to do analysis and listen to the Grateful Dead at the same time......


    Lol, Grateful Dead is awesome.

    I'm glad you posted 1.. Bxe2 though, it means you're actually thinking about the position rather than most of these guys on the thread that are just saying "This is not a draw!" without any evidence.

    Just food for thought, as an alternative to 5. Qxf3, think about 5. Rg1 too and the threats of 6. Qxg6 and 7. Qxg7 =)  Lots of possibilities.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #176

    GIORG10

    ...better!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #177

    EXV

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #178

    BoolyaB

    too hard

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #179

    shon615

    what is this?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #180

    MSC157

    1. Bh3 Bxh3 2. Rf2 Bxh2 3. Rc3 Bf4 4. Rxh3 Qxh3+ 5. Kg1 e3 6. Rg2 Qh4 7. Nxe3 Qe1+ 8. Nf1 Ne5 9. Qc8 Be3+ 10. Kh2 Qh4+ 11. Qh3 Bf4+ 12. Rg3 Bxg3+ 13. Nxg3 Ng4+ 14. Kg2 Ne3+ 15. Kh2 Ng4+ 16. Kg2 Ne3+ 17. Kh2 Ng4+


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