# 3/11/2011 - Cohn, 1928

• 5 years ago · Quote · #101

i don't feel very solved.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #102

nice one. forced stalemate or insufficient draw.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #103

Playing for stalemate is something I need to start learning... interesting strategy.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #104

Last

• 5 years ago · Quote · #105

fácil

• 5 years ago · Quote · #106
Jpr wrote:

how have i solved it? surely white loses...

white can force a draw.  if black queen captures rook, stalemate.  if black advances pawn, rxQ+ then white can capture pawn.  if black moves king, rook can capture queen then pawn.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #107
localoptimum wrote:

The solution doesn't make any sense.  PB2, KD2 (or e2), black promotes.  What am I missing please?

If Qxe3 it's stalemate.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #108
Jpr wrote:

how have i solved it? surely white loses...

I understand that it becomes a stalemate, but in these cases stalemates seem stupid... white can't move because if he does, he gets taken, but isn't that the point?  Black should win this one because it was he that forced white into "passing" because he had no available move. An unfortunate, (and counter-intuitive, if not "cheating") rule of chess.  To me this is a checkmate, and when i teach people how to play, i will always tell them so, chess is about winning, not forcing a "draw" in favor of the loser.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #109
localoptimum wrote:

The solution doesn't make any sense.  PB2, KD2 (or e2), black promotes.  What am I missing please?

U r right!  This is not a stalemate; Black will win (remember yesterday's puzzle; the end game).

SZ.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #110

Interesting.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #111
szammie wrote:
localoptimum wrote:

The solution doesn't make any sense.  PB2, KD2 (or e2), black promotes.  What am I missing please?

U r right!  This is not a stalemate; Black will win (remember yesterday's puzzle; the end game).

SZ.

no.. its a draw..

theres no chance for black to win..
• 5 years ago · Quote · #112
Jpr wrote:

how have i solved it? surely white loses...

If black takes the rook, white's king can not move anywhere and forces a stalemate.

If the queen does not take the rook, white simply takes the queen, black takes back and the white pawn will never be promoted.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #113

stalemate

• 5 years ago · Quote · #114

nice stalemate

• 5 years ago · Quote · #115

What about 1...Qxe3 2.Kxe3 Kd5 3.Kd3 Kc5

is it still draw?

• 5 years ago · Quote · #116

yay forced draw

• 5 years ago · Quote · #117

It should be noted that if white plays 3Kd2, then 3...b2 only draws, but 3...QxRe3+ (sacking his queen for white's rook) wins for black.

• 5 years ago · Quote · #118

why wouldn't black just take the rook?

• 5 years ago · Quote · #119

nice

• 5 years ago · Quote · #120

nice forced stalemate