5/14/2008 - Leveling the Playing Field

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14th May 2008, 12:00am
#1
by dailypuzzle
United States
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Drag the pieces to solve!
14th May 2008, 12:05am
#2
by Torkil
Germany
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First to post... :-)

I must admit that I find this one rather uninstructive Frown


14th May 2008, 12:05am
#3
by Kingfisher
zagreb Croatia
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First post and it took me 10 seconds! Wooot!
14th May 2008, 12:09am
#4
by Soulcrates
United States
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Why do we have to move for black?
14th May 2008, 12:13am
#5
by Torkil
Germany
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Member Points: 238

With White to move it would be pretty easy, too: 1.Nc6+-, but even if he doesn't play this, he's a piece up.

Black is a piece down in the initial position and needs to regain it, which he does by the combination given in the solution, so in the end he remains a pawn up and with the better minor piece.

So I should perhaps relativate my comment about its instructiveness: this sort of thing can happen quite commonly in a game, but from a puzzle I would have expected something else than just dumbly exchanging off the pieces and taking the hanging one last.


14th May 2008, 12:27am
#6
by GRkeeper
Walnut Creek United States
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Wow, got this one on my first try.
14th May 2008, 12:29am
#7
by depthshaman
United States
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Simple. I don't see any other variations that need calculating. Its all forced I think.
14th May 2008, 12:40am
#8
by silentfilmstar13
Medford, OR United States
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Torkil wrote:

With White to move it would be pretty easy, too: 1.Nc6+-, but even if he doesn't play this, he's a piece up.

Black is a piece down in the initial position and needs to regain it, which he does by the combination given in the solution, so in the end he remains a pawn up and with the better minor piece.

So I should perhaps relativate my comment about its instructiveness: this sort of thing can happen quite commonly in a game, but from a puzzle I would have expected something else than just dumbly exchanging off the pieces and taking the hanging one last.


 I'm with you.  This just seems like common sense, not really puzzle worthy.


14th May 2008, 12:41am
#9
by rakesh_dagar79
India
Member Since: Apr 2008
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very easy.
14th May 2008, 12:43am
#10
by etarnal
singapore Singapore
Member Since: May 2008
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what happens next if the black bishop kills the white bishop? theres no checkmate anyway
14th May 2008, 12:48am
#11
by etarnal
singapore Singapore
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this one wasn't very short at least.. but i want it to be longer!!!SealedTongue outCry


14th May 2008, 12:57am
#12
by zion
marseille France
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ok!
14th May 2008, 01:03am
#13
by Torkil
Germany
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depthshaman wrote: Simple. I don't see any other variations that need calculating. Its all forced I think.

Well, actually White does have a major deviation: 1...Rxc1 2.Nc6!? Rxd1+ 3.Bxd1 Qb7 (or 3...Bh6 4.Bxb6 Bxd2 5.Nxe7+) 4.Nxe7+ with Nxc8 to follow. Unless I have missed something vital, I would prefer this continuation to the line given in the solution.


14th May 2008, 01:09am
#14
by lbxab
Nottingham, UK England
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 5

You missed the white bishop on e3 taking the queen. 


EDIT - apologies, no you didn't! :)


14th May 2008, 01:13am
#15
by keith105
Bishops Stortford,Herts,UK United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 199

Pretty basic game where black levels the pieces. The game of course is far from over but blacks pieces are now more active. Whites best defence to the Black Bishop is K-f2. (Not B x B, as Q x B+ followed by Q x eP threatening the Bishop and destroying Whites defence).

Not the best of puzzles we have had on here but lets face it, more games are won in the middle of a match than at the end!


14th May 2008, 01:13am
#16
by Samsam
Italy
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very nice strong attack
14th May 2008, 01:22am
#17
by luqmaan
Cleveland, Ohio United States
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Member Points: 133

Good stuff once again and nice play Torkil.


14th May 2008, 01:24am
#18
by lpapoo
larkana Pakistan
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Member Points: 87
easier
14th May 2008, 01:24am
#19
by normajeanyates
london [often in calcutta india] England
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Torkil wrote: depthshaman wrote: Simple. I don't see any other variations that need calculating. Its all forced I think.

Well, actually White does have a major deviation: 1...Rxc1 2.Nc6!? Rxd1+ 3.Bxd1 Qb7 (or 3...Bh6 4.Bxb6 Bxd2 5.Nxe7+) 4.Nxe7+ with Nxc8 to follow. Unless I have missed something vital, I would prefer this continuation to the line given in the solution.


 Well you didn't miss the white bishop on e3 taking the queen [tbxab posted too fast], and your variation for white equalises [the original solution leaves black a pawn up].

So, you have a point there - white can do better.

However, the point of the puzzle is to see fast in which order  to exchange so as not to be left a piece behind. Black should see your variation also, but once black has realised that the first move has to be RxR then it [luckily in this puzzle] works even if black misses (like i did)  your improvement of white's play.

I must say that this makes the puzzle somewhat flawed ...

 


14th May 2008, 01:24am
#20
by vijaykulkarni
Pune India
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 214
Solution by Torkel leads to same LEVELLING THE PLAYING FIELD? RIGHT But simply forced moves sequence any way Didi not require innovative thinking
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