6/30/2009 - Pressure Cooker

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30th June 2009, 12:44am
#21
by Vicdman60
Jacksonville United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 20

if QxN, then Rd6 to f6, white Q moves (without taking the rook at f6), then QF3 check white, ....Re8 x e3 follows.....

30th June 2009, 12:49am
#22
by cena_warrior
Medan Indonesia
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 745

hmm don't quite understand it..

30th June 2009, 12:57am
#23
by pradippathak
ahmedabad India
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 4
HASANOVICH wrote:

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30th June 2009, 01:06am
#24
by Gogov
Sofia Bulgaria
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 5

I did it.

30th June 2009, 01:07am
#25
by da_tornado
Honolulu United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 1018

hmmmmmmmmmmmm...

30th June 2009, 01:15am
#26
by anuj_manerikar
Pune India
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 200

y not qxf2

30th June 2009, 01:17am
#27
by vitali_10
Jerusalem Israel
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 414

But the possition after 2.Qxf2 is still better than the one in the puzzle:

30th June 2009, 01:20am
#28
by littleAlekhine
Stuttgart Germany
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 203

nice one

30th June 2009, 01:29am
#29
by etarnal
singapore Singapore
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 387

zzz

30th June 2009, 01:31am
#30
by etarnal
singapore Singapore
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 387
vitali_10 wrote:

But the possition after 2.Qxf2 is still better than the one in the puzzle:

 


 but white has a knight

30th June 2009, 01:35am
#31
by speedfile
Nordhausen Germany
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 25
vitali_10 wrote:

But the possition after 2.Qxf2 is still better than the one in the puzzle:

 

 


After 5. Qf1 not 5. ... Qg3+ , better move is 5. ... Qe4. The Rf6 attacks the Qf1 and after 6. Qg2 follows Rf3 with the threat 7. ... Rxg3. How will white prevent this? Embarassed

30th June 2009, 01:35am
#32
by Timeyo_R_Nkosi
Kitwe Zambia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 505

Not so easy

30th June 2009, 01:44am
#33
by JCE77
Ostrava Czech Republic
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 186
cena_warrior wrote:

hmm don't quite understand it..


 

if Qxf2, then (variation #1 #2 #3)

30th June 2009, 01:57am
#34
by vitali_10
Jerusalem Israel
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 414
speedfile wrote:
vitali_10 wrote:

But the possition after 2.Qxf2 is still better than the one in the puzzle:

 

 


After 5. Qf1 not 5. ... Qg3+ , better move is 5. ... Qe4. The Rf6 attacks the Qf1 and after 6. Qg2 follows Rf3 with the threat 7. ... Rxg3. How will white prevent this?


You're right speedfile- it will be prevented only if 6.Qxf6 (exchanging queen with rook) and even then white's Rc2 would be impossible (as in the puzzle), so the puzzle version is indeed better than mine.

etarnal- in my version white and black end with the same material, but 3 pawns in a chain are better than a knight and can be stopped with minimum 2 sacrifices.

30th June 2009, 02:07am
#35
by winegrower
Piemonte Italy
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 42

I dont see how black wins when white play Rc3 (idea: Rf3, e4) instead of Rc2. Better to play more seriously.

30th June 2009, 02:10am
#36
by vitali_10
Jerusalem Israel
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 414

JCE77 (comment #42): that is why 4.Kg1 is better than 4.Kh2 (comparing with our versions). But the best version for white is the version of the puzzle.

30th June 2009, 02:27am
#37
by verlox1
Boston United States
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 29

I have a lot of questions on this one. First of all, R c3 significantly prolongs white's loss, leaving a knight against a rook and 3 pawns. But even more optimistically, what about 3. ... Qf3 Kg1 4. Re3 Qf1 5. Qg3 Qg2  ?? I see no attack following this. (I see someone has already pointed this out.) Also, in the puzzle itself, what happens if white play Rh2 after the last black's move?

30th June 2009, 02:29am
#38
by Lemma
Ethiopia
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 52

it is not complete

30th June 2009, 02:34am
#39
by Sabaton
Sisak Croatia
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 69

its a bad one white can take knight with queen wtf?

30th June 2009, 02:41am
#40
by Daknight_4u
Kwa-Zulu Natal South Africa
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 164

1st


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