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7/18/2008 - Converting the Ending

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18th July 2008, 12:00am
#1
by dailypuzzle
United States
Member Since: May 2007
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Drag the pieces to solve!
18th July 2008, 12:01am
#2
by sceneassassin
California United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 81

nice, but why not 5.Kb6?

It would threaten check mate and if he moved rook to check again you could move Bishop in the way and it would be protected by king. I think it'd be the quickest way to mate and whatnot. Seriously, why not 5.Kb6? And if black moved rook to rank 8 then bishop could easily be put on g8 making it safe for pawn to promote.

 

I'm staring at it more and more and i think i understand why it's better to sac bishop for the sure queen. but still... i mean kb6 would lead to rook on the 8th rank and then bishop could maybe guard pawn but it couldn't guard pawn and stop the black pawn from promoting. i guess that's why the bishop sac makes it best.

 

 

 

 


18th July 2008, 12:02am
#3
by ga81
Amsterdan Netherlands
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 42

argh second! missed it by a second


18th July 2008, 12:02am
#4
by mo78
New Hampshire United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 69

not bad... pretty long puzzle


18th July 2008, 12:05am
#5
by uberchink
United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 9

why cant you just move the pawn up the h-file?


18th July 2008, 12:08am
#6
by phishcake5
California United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 530

what a weird little pickle


18th July 2008, 12:09am
#7
by d_nice_dd
reading United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1

there were more ways to get a queen.. besides.. this what he author would have done.. i dont agree with this


18th July 2008, 12:15am
#8
by pcflyer
CA United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 478

sceneassassin wrote:

nice, but why not 5.Kb6?

It would threaten check mate and if he moved rook to check again you could move Bishop in the way and it would be protected by king. I think it'd be the quickest way to mate and whatnot. Seriously, why not 5.Kb6?

 


 My thoughts exactly.


18th July 2008, 12:17am
#9
by Leeperry
Ghent Belgium
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 6

I don't agree with this either, I believe advancing the pawn up the h file is a quicker route to a queen and has the off chance that you still can have your bishop depending on your opponents moves. neither does it require a detour to sac your bishop on the 4th, had the rook gone Rh8 at that time you would have lost both your pawns


18th July 2008, 12:23am
#10
by keith105
Bishops Stortford,Herts,UK United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 247

Now thats what I call a nightmare of a solution, enjoyable but I was nowhere near this one. For all you "easy" or "simple" lovers, eat your heart out!

 


18th July 2008, 12:29am
#11
by archdevil
Sweden
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1

sceneassassin wrote:

nice, but why not 5.Kb6?

It would threaten check mate and if he moved rook to check again you could move Bishop in the way and it would be protected by king. I think it'd be the quickest way to mate and whatnot. Seriously, why not 5.Kb6? And if black moved rook to rank 8 then bishop could easily be put on g8 making it safe for pawn to promote.

 

 

 


 The king must protect the 8th rank. If 5.Kb6 then 5...Rc8 and black prevents the pawn from promoting.


18th July 2008, 12:37am
#12
by Gerickreg
San Francisco United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1

Archdevil is right, and the king and bishop alone are not a mate threat.


18th July 2008, 01:02am
#13
by Che_Na
Kedah Malaysia
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 42

sceneasssasin posted good notes.. not like some people say First!Second!Fourth!.. kind of *** :-P

 


18th July 2008, 01:03am
#14
by strobe
Adelaide Australia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 126

cool

 


18th July 2008, 01:12am
#15
by payet_alexandre
Montpellier France
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 144

sceneassassin wrote:

nice, but why not 5.Kb6?

It would threaten check mate and if he moved rook to check again you could move Bishop in the way and it would be protected by king. I think it'd be the quickest way to mate and whatnot. Seriously, why not 5.Kb6? And if black moved rook to rank 8 then bishop could easily be put on g8 making it safe for pawn to promote.

 

I'm staring at it more and more and i think i understand why it's better to sac bishop for the sure queen. but still... i mean kb6 would lead to rook on the 8th rank and then bishop could maybe guard pawn but it couldn't guard pawn and stop the black pawn from promoting. i guess that's why the bishop sac makes it best.

 

 

 

 


After 5Kb6, 5..Rc8 and white loses


18th July 2008, 01:46am
#16
by dakkula
Italy
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 5

payet_alexandre wrote:


After 5Kb6, 5..Rc8 and white loses


Exactly what I was thinking...


18th July 2008, 01:47am
#17
by anime4ever
Australia
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 14
would black have won if instead of taking the bishop he aimed for the pawn
18th July 2008, 01:54am
#18
by mobythewhitewhale
Christchurch New Zealand
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 32

cool


18th July 2008, 02:01am
#19
by ide
Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1

anime4ever wrote: would black have won if instead of taking the bishop he aimed for the pawn


If the rook moves to h1, the bishop wins it with a fork.


18th July 2008, 02:11am
#20
by xhuljano
Philadelphia United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 19

yay im  in the 1st page list


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