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Dvoretsky endgame manual and secrets of endgame technique


  • 4 years ago · Quote · #1

    ankitthemaster

    hello,

    Both books are of author Dvoretsky, if fellow members have both books, can they explain whats the difference between those 2 books and which of them they prefer?

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #2

    orangehonda

    About the endgame technique book, I don't have it, but I've read that it is not a break down of typical endgame themes (such as rook and pawn endgames) for instruction, that covers theory etc.  It is only a book that helps you analyse though endgames from actual GM games.

    I have his endgame manual, and it's more what you'd think of a traditional endgame book being.  You find the rook and pawn endgame chapter, find the section dealing with positions where pawns are on both sides of the board, and start reading.

    The diagrams in blue ink he considers must know positions for a tournament player, the diagrams and analysis in black ink are further analysis of the same theme, many marked with a $ symbol which he uses to say it's important to endgame theory.  This is the book to buy if you want to learn endgames. 

    If you're satisfied with how much endgame knoweldge you have already, but want to add some analysis of GM games, then based on what I've heard you should go for the secrets of endgame technique.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #3

    ankitthemaster

    thanks for your reply. 

    I am considering of buying Endgame manual, after that secret of endgame technique.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #4

    marvellosity

    Probably the right way round, go for it :)

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #5

    philidor_position

    ankitthemaster wrote:

    thanks for your reply. 

    I am considering of buying Endgame manual, after that secret of endgame technique.


    Dvoretsky's manual is a kick-ass book. I've been told it has made the toughest boys in the neighbourhood cry. I barely saved myself by running away after the first chapter. Be careful, my friend.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #6

    ankitthemaster

    lol..i am already started using it. The puzzle or exercises for practice are really really tough. But i am enjoying it!! Its 2 hours, 3 exercises on opposition and none correctly solved by me. 

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #7

    philidor_position

    ankitthemaster wrote:

    lol..i am already started using it. The puzzle or exercises for practice are really really tough. But i am enjoying it!! Its 2 hours, 3 exercises on opposition and none correctly solved by me. 


    Make sure you take your time. IM David Pruess (DPruess here) had mentioned he spent a month for each chapter in that book with 8 hours a day and with a coach helping him.

    I gave up that book and went for Silman's manual instead, which is easier and more time-friendly for me at the moment. I won't have time to study it for the foreseeable future though.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #8

    tommygdrums

    philidor_position wrote:
    ankitthemaster wrote:

    lol..i am already started using it. The puzzle or exercises for practice are really really tough. But i am enjoying it!! Its 2 hours, 3 exercises on opposition and none correctly solved by me. 


    Make sure you take your time. IM David Pruess (DPruess here) had mentioned he spent a month for each chapter in that book with 8 hours a day and with a coach helping him.

    I gave up that book and went for Silman's manual instead, which is easier and more time-friendly for me at the moment. I won't have time to study it for the foreseeable future though.


    For what it is worth there is a Chess Mentor course on this site on Pawn endings that was written by Silman.  It is AWESOME!  And dare I say it is even better than the information in his endgame book. 

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #9

    orangehonda

    philidor_position wrote:
    ankitthemaster wrote:

    lol..i am already started using it. The puzzle or exercises for practice are really really tough. But i am enjoying it!! Its 2 hours, 3 exercises on opposition and none correctly solved by me. 


    Make sure you take your time. IM David Pruess (DPruess here) had mentioned he spent a month for each chapter in that book with 8 hours a day and with a coach helping him.

    I gave up that book and went for Silman's manual instead, which is easier and more time-friendly for me at the moment. I won't have time to study it for the foreseeable future though.


    Wow and I thought I moved slow.  I think I moved at a pace of 5 pages every two hours...  the first chapter is one of the toughest so don't give up :) -- also the rook chapter seemed to stretch on into eternity.

    I finally finished the book -- but did I absorbe even half of it?  No way, I hope to re-read it this year Tongue out

    I liked the tragicomedies followed by the exercises.  The tragicomedies really helped the lessons hit home for me (truthfully) and I finally understood it perfectly (at least that's how I felt until)... now for the exercises... aww crap I can hardly solve them, lol.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #10

    amitprabhale

    Wht's the price of the book? Where can I get it? I stay in Mumbai

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #11

    ankitthemaster

    orangehonda wrote:
    philidor_position wrote:
    ankitthemaster wrote:

    lol..i am already started using it. The puzzle or exercises for practice are really really tough. But i am enjoying it!! Its 2 hours, 3 exercises on opposition and none correctly solved by me. 


    Make sure you take your time. IM David Pruess (DPruess here) had mentioned he spent a month for each chapter in that book with 8 hours a day and with a coach helping him.

    I gave up that book and went for Silman's manual instead, which is easier and more time-friendly for me at the moment. I won't have time to study it for the foreseeable future though.


    Wow and I thought I moved slow.  I think I moved at a pace of 5 pages every two hours...  the first chapter is one of the toughest so don't give up :) -- also the rook chapter seemed to stretch on into eternity.

    I finally finished the book -- but did I absorbe even half of it?  No way, I hope to re-read it this year

    I liked the tragicomedies followed by the exercises.  The tragicomedies really helped the lessons hit home for me (truthfully) and I finally understood it perfectly (at least that's how I felt until)... now for the exercises... aww crap I can hardly solve them, lol.


    I completed till mined squares and i am already reading book again from start, this book is amazing!! Really enjoying it


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