Why did white win this endgame?

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7th April 2009, 08:36pm
#1
by hithere2
Pennsylvania United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 23

I'm just confused by the following game.  Why did I win?  Where did we both screw up?

 

7th April 2009, 08:47pm
#2
by omgCHECKMATE
Sacramento United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 90

I don't think you messed up by taking the pawn...although your opponent blundered like a second grader, good finish.

7th April 2009, 08:48pm
#3
by kco
Perth Australia
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 7104

nice endgame hithere2, you won because black didn't move in the right order

on the first move Rxh2  g1=Q ! the game still even

7th April 2009, 09:06pm
#4
by oinquarki
The Finest City In The United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 3994
omgCHECKMATE wrote:

I don't think you messed up by taking the pawn...although your opponent blundered like a second grader, good finish.


 I think that's offensive towards second graders.

7th April 2009, 09:18pm
#5
by bondiggity
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 1548

You also made a huge blunder with 3. Qxe6+, 3. Qh8+ followed by 4. Qg8+ wins the black queen. 

7th April 2009, 09:26pm
#6
by einstein2191
Bay Area, California United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 533

When the opponent played 12. ...Rc5 and let you take the pawn, that is where he went wrong.

7th April 2009, 09:56pm
#7
by brandonQDSH
Honolulu, HI United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 996

1. bondiggity makes a great point: you missed a tactical shot on move 3 that would have "won" the game for you.

2. You were grossly behind on material, down a Rook, but your opponent made two fundamental endgame mistakes:

A. Misuse of his Rook

B. Misuse of his King

Your opponent didn't bring his King into the game until very late. Your 2 pawns + King = 5 points and his Rook + pawn = 6 points, so by not using his King, you weren't actually down that much material. 

7th April 2009, 10:10pm
#8
by val08
United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 2782

Starting at move 7, black should have been moving his king instead of doing  useless checks. Black still had a pawn there and the rook ensures the black king never reaches the queening square.

8th April 2009, 12:34am
#9
by NM tonydal
United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4516

Even later on Black had a win, with 14... Kc6.

The original position is a rather odd win for White.  Even the better try 1... g1/Q wouldn't save Black:  2 Rxh4+ Kg5 3 c8/Q Qe3+ 4 Qc3.

8th April 2009, 07:29am
#10
by hithere2
Pennsylvania United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 23

Wow!  I didn't notice any of this!  I'll be taking advantage of this forum a lot more now.

8th April 2009, 07:46am
#11
by Skeith
United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 24

obviously a very low ranked game, i would have promoted first and ignored the rook, and while black was promoting i would have the advantage

9th April 2009, 12:16am
#12
by NM tonydal
United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4516

No, you wouldn't, Skeith.  The best you could manage would be a perpetual (and that might not be possible either).

 

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