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A question to the people who "never" resign: Do you keep playing because you think you will have a chance at a stalemate? And how many times have you achieved a stalemate draw?
If I only knew. Right now, I am playing a game against a guy rated around 1700. He has currently several games (against a variety of players) going where he is hopelessly lost. His method is this: as long as the game is even or he is up he plays at a normal speed. As soon as the position is lost, he will make a move every third day until check mate. Truly pathetic. I sense he would never do this when sitting across an actual opponent. The only real hope is that an opponent runs out of time which I have seen happen once. Certainly, the relative anonymity of online chess (and I guess the internet in general) brings out the lesser qualities in people.
I have noticed this as well, people slowing down when they lose.... But then I noticed something else. If I make a stupid blunder sometimes, I log off,or just leave the computer, and go make some coffe or something and come back an hour later. I could easily see how my opponent an construe that as delaying tacticts on my part, even if I don't intend it that way.... Maybe it's a question of perception. I feel I need a break, that's my only motivation...
This is something I do also.
I'm referring to those who will play out K vs K&R or K vs K&Q for days on purpose.
Yeah, the best way to deal with that, I find, is to not make any comments, just play at their pace, and put in the odd conditional move if you have a forced line.
I can understant that someone wants to see pawn ending, but if one does not know Q+K vs K ending, and he wants to learn that, over and over again, he should give up on chess. First thing I learned after pieces movement was how to mate with K+R vs K.
Matalino, I feel your pain ! Just look at this game : http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=13383856
That's insane. Simply insane. Look at the ratings, on both sides. For god's sake. There comes a time when one should simply give up.
Maybe the programmers of Rybka and Fritz should factor resigning into their engines.
That will probably be the next step in chess computers!
This does seem like an important point. I trust players at around my level will resign at the appropriate time, but go down several hundred points and I can't say i have that same trust.
The several hundred rating points sometimes makes it harder to determine the appropriate point.
I don't think it's really an issue -- I'd expect that if someone's rated that much below me that their stay of execution as a result of not resigning should be relatively short anyway.
In any case, it's not so much those that don't know when they're in a lost position that I take issue with, but rather those that do and drag the game out intentionally by suddenly deciding that they need all of their time to make each of their next fruitless moves. The worst offenders will resign just one move before checkmate to drive the point home. The message from these individuals is clear: they are petty and spiteful and unable to lose gracefully.
Exactly right, so I don't see why some want to complain so bitterly!
Even if, as the second part of your post says, he decides to continue at a snails pace, it will still only take up as much time as if he moved quickly. So I don't really see why you all want to complain so much about it! Respect his right to continue and stop crying!
I'm not going to get into this again with you Suggo, you clearly have no appreciation of the fact that individuals can be spiteful and rude all while still being completely within their rights and that this behaviour is not only worthy of being called out, but in fact demands it.
Its pretty obvious that you are not a serious chess player. Do you take this never say die attitude with you into the ring as a pugilist ? I doubt you have ever played in a serious otb chess tournament. Ofcourse, players who refuse to resign on the net dont annoy me as much as those who refuse to do so otb but they are much more rare in otb play too !
But you are on here complaining about those on the net! They take up no more of your time than they would otherwise.
As far as the serious chess player goes...you have decided I am not a serious chess player because I actually respect the rights and decisions of others to play the game in any fashion that they wish....I am not a serious chess player because I refuse to try to impose what and when others should resign....I am not a serious chess player because I will not just bow before players with high ratings that makes them think they are authorities on the game in all aspects? If all or any of those are correct and it is necessary to become a pompus stuck up chess snob to be considered a serious player, then I will happily go through life, HOPEFULLY, never being considered a serious chess player!
Spiteful and rude....these are your measures. Idon't consider anything within the rules spiteful or rude...it is all part of the game! Maybe you should consider another hobby if you can't grasp this concept!
No suggo, you are not a serious chess player because you think its ok to disrespect the game and your opponent as long as there is no written rule forbidding it. I know many serious chess players and professionals and I dont know a single one that adopts your attitude/approach, or that which you defend. Resigning when you are hopelessly lost is called good sportsmanship and is practiced by the overwhelming majority of serious chess players. As for me being pompous/arrogant, anyone that knows me personally will tell you thats simply not true.
i would only carry on if the combination was so good it would be a crime not to let him finish me
If I know I'm truely losing, I'd resign. Besides I don't like the idea of playing on
in a hopeless position.
The reason behind it doesn't matter, and the amount of time you spend on the game will sum up to be the same!
Tough luck for Aronian 5.5 hour game!!!
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