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IncrediBill vs zrylam (with kibitzers)


  • 20 months ago · Quote · #21

    IncrediBill

    Sorry for the delay in making my move.  I had to go out of town for a few days.

    Anyway, I think I am going to try something a bit more aggressive than pushing my pawn up to d4.  If @zrylam is going for a King's Indian Defense, then I am going to start an attack on the Queen side before he gets a chance to pull it off.  I am pulling out my Bishop and playing . . . . Bb5

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #22

    Roeczak

    where is the attack ?

    Bg7

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #23

    zrylam

    When you see a good move, look for a better one.

    Due to move order, I am currently unable to find a move to take advantage of an early Nc3. And so I shall allow the game to transpose with:

    4. ... Bg7

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #24

    IncrediBill

    Hmmmm.  Well I have a few choices now.  I can play 5. Bxc6 and end up doubling up Black's pawns.  I can push my pawn up to d3 and open the door up for my dark Bishop, or I can always fall back on a solid castling move.  Unless, someone has some other options for me, I just have to weigh the pros and cons of each.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #25

    corpsporc

    5.Ne5!! it still works.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #26

    Roeczak

    0-0

    I think you should safe your king before u start the attack

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #27

    IncrediBill

    I am not sure why @corpsporc is suggesting the 5.Ne5 move.  The square is unprotected and I would be just giving away a piece.  Unless there is some gambit that I do not see, it would seem like an unsound choice.

    I think that going with @Roeczak's suggestion of castling is the best way to go.  Once the King is safely tucked away, I can afford to be a bit more aggressive with other moves and not have to worry about going back to save the King.

    Since I am assuming that @zrylam is playing a King's Indian defense, which I think is generally a more passive position to play, then it sort of puts the ball in my court to play a bit more aggressive.  So I might as well play my safe moves now, and then try to, "let 'er rip".

    Therefore:

    5.O-O

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #28

    Roeczak

    with white 2/3 66% moves I say

    with black 1/2 50% moves I say

    TOTAL 3/5 60% moves I say

    GREAT

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #29

    zrylam

    5. ... e5


  • 20 months ago · Quote · #30

    IncrediBill

    Normally the King's Indian Defense is played when White open's with d4.  But because it is being played with an e4 openinng, @zrylam is going to have to make some variations out in front of himself.  His e5 move was necessary in order to allow him to bring his Knight out to f6.  If he played Nf6 first, then I would play e5 and interfere with his plans.  By him moving to e5 first, then he blocks that move for me.

    I am assuming that his next move will be Nf6.  Since that move is going to threaten my e4 pawn, then I think that I should be a little 'pro-active' and throw some defense on that pawn in advance, instead of protecting it after the fact.

    I feel that the best move to accomplish this would be d3.  Since my light square Bishop is already out, then this move will not block it in (glad I brought it out when I did).  It also opens up a path for my dark square Bishop to be set free.  Most importantly, it gives some solid defense to my e4 pawn.

    So unless someone suggests another type of defense, or another line of attack, then I think that d3 is going to be my move. 

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #31

    Roeczak

    ok d3 but not for protecting the pawn as much as for opening the bishop

    and a future idea: you have an outpost on d5 in front of his weak pawn on d7 (d6) so for a future idea you could exchange the knight on f6 (eg for a bishop or even a rook if the outpost becomes even stronger) and put your c3 knight on d5 before @zrylam attacks your "early Nc3"

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #32

    IncrediBill

    d3 it is

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #33

    zrylam

    By playing the Sicilian, I stated my intention of counter-attacking on the Q-side. A Knight posted on f6 seems counter-productive as it (significantly) hinders my e- and f-pawns, and has no useful square to move on to. I do intend to castle and at the moment, my K-side seems to be able to repel an attack long enough to create my own threats and so my next move seems almost forced:

    6. Nge7


  • 20 months ago · Quote · #34

    IncrediBill

    I did not expect 6. Nge7 to be played.  I guess it is because I have never been comfortable with playing it myself.  I always like the idea of getting my Knights out to cover the centre squares.  Even though 6. Nf6 would block his f-pawn from advancing, I am not sure why he would want to advance it, especially when he plans to tuck his King in behind it.  It would seem that keeping the f-pawn right where it is, would be the best place for it to be.  Anyway, I am interested to see how it plays out.  If I am proven wrong, then maybe I should consider playing my Knight to the second rank.

    I must admit, though, that not playing his Knight to the f6 square, does preserve his Bishop's protection of the e5-pawn.  My back of the mind thought of at one time playing Bxc6, so that I might be able to capture that e5-pawn, is no longer an option.

    So while @zrylam seems to have his pieces nice and tight together and supporting each other, I think that I need to try and be a bit more aggressive and start applying some pressure.  My thoughts are playing Bg5 and pinning his Knight against the Queen.  I would not mind some other suggestions, or a good reason why that move might blow up in my face.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #35

    Roeczak

    I am not sure but Bg5 seeme like too much

    propably Be3 attacking the c5 pawn (d6?! and the knight is pinned)

    and then you should decide where to move the bishop (after e.g. b6)

    Bg5 seeme ok but i think that move is a very good alternetive

    Roeczak

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #36

    IncrediBill

    I like the Be3 move, it is pretty straight forward and safe.  But I think it is time to get a little more aggresive:

    7. Bg5

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #37

    zrylam

    • f6 seems ok as I'll most likely be tucking my King into h8 anyway
    • a6 followed by b5 looks strong
    • 0-0 seems inevitable and neither side has an attacking force yet

    Suggestions are welcome! Smile

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #38

    zrylam

    Actually, scrap 0-0 (for the exact reason I incorrectly stated above) due to Nd5 unless someone can suggest a good reason for it.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #39

    Roeczak

    a6

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #40

    zrylam

    alrighty then 7. ...a6 it is


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