15132 Players currently online!
Man vs. Machine - good luck!
Turn-based games at any time!
Vote for the best move to win!
Do you have what it takes?
Sharpen your tactical vision!
Get advice and game insights!
Learn from top players & pros!
View millions of master games!
Your virtual chess coach!
Perfect your opening moves!
Test your skills vs. computer!
Find the right private coach!
Can you solve it each day?
Bring it all together!
Beginners, start here!
Make friends & play team games!
News from the world of chess!
Search all Chess.com members!
Find local clubs & events!
Who's the best of your friends?
Read what members are saying!
Hi everyone, I hope you can help me
I'm looking for an old real game (18th or 19th century) which a white pawn is promoted into a black knight (I don't exactly remember... but it was a black piece) in order to checkmate the black.
idk but that sounds BA, check wikipedia
um.. Black can't checkmate its own pieces..
so obviously something is wrong here.
I already check it out, but they just give a slight reference
It was an old tournament game (before the present rules ~1840 ) the white player did it intentionally and the referee had to discuss a lot to finally consider that move valid.
No, it was a discovered check. I know the game you are talking about, but I can't find it.
Yes RyanMK, I saw that game in an old chess book but I had to sell it
what is the point though? promoting white knight wouldnt have harmed the discovered check and mate folloiwng..
yes it would have. Then the black king could have taken the knight to get out of check (or some scenario like that.)
It wasn't at the time it was played. The rules then said that a pawn that reaches the eighth rank may be promoted to ANY piece of the player's choosing.
UGH, stop replying with smart answers! :P
and yes i agree with rich.. hes cheating! hes using an engine!! :)
you're right again, if the white promoted any "white piece" the king or any other black piece would capture it
Nonot buying that. If that was ever allowed Ouachita should be let back in.
Pawn promotion rule has had a lot of changes, specially before 1800, Philidor made some references about this... that's why that kind of moves were allowed
Considering you're always wrong about everything else, why should anyone care whether you believe it or not?
I believe "Owned" is appropriate here.
Anyway, I don't remember this position as a game, rather a puzzle composition. (Much like the puzzle where you have to castle along a file, also from the past.) What has been said is correct, if the pawn was promoted to a white piece the enemy would have escaped checkmate via capture. The new black knight blocked his own king's escape square.
You've been wrong numerous times before as well.
Everyone has been wrong numerous times. However, the only correct thing I've seen you type is "I like the Trompowsky". Everything else, utter crap.
12/11/2013 - Topalov-Kramnik, Dortmund 1996
by CalmTrouble a few minutes ago
How do I make two chess engines play a match against eachother on (Arena GUI)
by EscherehcsE 3 minutes ago
London Chess Classic - Super 16 Rapid 2013
by Fixing_A_Hole 3 minutes ago
Panno question for high level KID players
by aronchuck 4 minutes ago
The rating jump
by GeorgeBlackChess123 4 minutes ago
Help Arena GUI
by Peter-Pepper 5 minutes ago
Is blindfold chess harmful?
by EDB123 5 minutes ago
by EDB123 9 minutes ago
Crazy Move in Grunfeld! How to beat this annoying line?
by EDB123 11 minutes ago
Is there a young chess player who can equel Magnus?
by ilikecapablanca 13 minutes ago
Why Join | Chess Topics |
Help & Support |
© 2013 Chess.com
• Chess - English
We are working hard to make Chess.com available in over 70 languages. Check back over the year as we develop the technology to add more, and we will try our best to notify you when your language is ready for translating!