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5th May 2008, 01:59pm
#1
by einstein_69101
Lincoln, Nebraska United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 1755

Here is my first 100+ move game.  :)  I thought it would be interesting to post because it was a very long game.  :)

5th May 2008, 02:07pm
#2
by lukeyboy_xx
london England
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 593
nice
5th May 2008, 02:52pm
#3
by arthurvmdantas
Brazil
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 2
veeeery long :)
5th May 2008, 05:41pm
#4
by young_roy123
Germany
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 116
white you should have won but you blew it
5th May 2008, 05:46pm
#5
by KillaBeez
Denver, CO United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 753
Not really.  It's kind of difficult to win that endgame.  Good game.
5th May 2008, 05:49pm
#6
by add
chardon United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1120

wow, i don't have the time to go through all the moves, but good game


5th May 2008, 06:03pm
#7
by shiggsyo
New Jersey United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 98
pretty epic.
5th May 2008, 06:09pm
#8
by laporte
Granby Canada
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 39

Lol, no, its not difficult at all.. he blew it badly. Lots of moves for nothing. But hey.. important is he had fun. No need to play like kasparov all the time


6th May 2008, 03:50am
#9
by einstein_69101
Lincoln, Nebraska United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 1755
If you thought this wasn't difficult then maybe you can give some suggestions on where I could have made some improvements.  :)  Keep in mind that my opponent's rating was 2270 (250 points higher than mine).  Before my opponent did the knight sac it was looking kind of drawish since I didn't see a good way of eliminating black's pawn so I can go promote.  :)  Usually a rook vs knight endgame ends in a draw unless there are some threats with the pawns.  :)
6th May 2008, 06:22am
#10
by De-Lar
Sycamore United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 204

einstein I love how the people that say you blew it, their games don't look all that impressive at all. I know my games aren't all that impressive, but hey, i'm not the one trying to bring somebody down by posting unnecessary comments.

 

laporte and young_roy123, why don't you study einstein_69101's games and learn a thing or two.


6th May 2008, 06:33am
#11
by dc1985
Austin United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 21

nice game.


6th May 2008, 09:45am
#12
by Rabid_Dog
Manchester United Kingdom
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 177
Thanks for posting the game.  It must have taken you as long to post and annotate it as it took to play it!  Great sacrifice in the middle and I agree with you;  Rook v Knight looked a draw from a long way out.  I'd be interested to see if anyone who disagrees can post a way of showing how you could have won this one
6th May 2008, 12:14pm
#13
by hondoham
North Carolina USA and Honduras
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 444

here's a move: 

79.RxN;;

1/2-1/2 

i'm adding to the common shorthand for chess notation here.  i think the semicolon is a good candidate for drawish chess.

; = drawish move

;; = has loss the will to live, drawish move


7th May 2008, 12:58pm
#14
by Frankdawg
Parma Ohio United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 86
Its winable but tough to get a wining position
7th May 2008, 01:05pm
#15
by silentfilmstar13
Medford, OR United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2018
Frankdawg wrote: Its winable but tough to get a wining position

 I don't see how he could have won the game from a position in his game.  Laporte and young_roy123, why don't you show us the winning move.  It looks like a draw to me.


7th May 2008, 01:29pm
#16
by Frankdawg
Parma Ohio United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 86

59 Kg5 is stronger than 59. Kg3 imo


8th May 2008, 01:53am
#17
by silentfilmstar13
Medford, OR United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2018
59.Kg5 Ne6+  60.Nxe6 Kxe6  61.Kxg6 Nxg4 still looks like a draw to me.
10th May 2008, 08:29pm
#18
by Gonnosuke
Southern California United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 274

When someone says:

"Its winable but tough to get a wining position"

That pretty much means 'I looked at it with my chess engine and it said white was up material so I know you can win but I didn't let me chess engine run long enough to figure out exactly how'

Einstein, I think you played a fantastic game and despite the outcome I think it's a game to be proud of.  Yes, the endgame was long and didn't produce a positive result but many people would have fatally blundered along the way.  Other than move 92.Ke7?? which guaranteed the draw, I'm not positive there was a win in here.  The position beginning at around move 55 or so is a great mental exercise and I've been poking around trying out a few things to see if I can come up with anything positive.  It's damn tough!  If I find anything with promise I'll be sure to post it. 

Again, great game.  Move 25...Ra5 is a curious mistake if you ask me but...nevermind.

-Gonnosuke


10th May 2008, 09:16pm
#19
by Gonnosuke
Southern California United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 274

I found a winning continuation beginning at move 55.  It should be noted that I didn't spend a whole lot of time analyzing possible refutations to my line so I'm not making any guarantees that it'll stand up but it was difficult enough finding a win at in that end game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even if black doesn't move his king to a square where white can use the skewer the black knights have been driven away from the action and the black king is not in position to be useful. I'm not positive but I have strongly suspect, now that I've looked more in depth at the position, that white can force this kind of final position even with completely different lines as long as he holds off on moving his kingside pawns long enough to drive the knights and king out of position to start his King & Pawn march.


10th May 2008, 09:36pm
#20
by svna91
United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 28
The last moves were just overkill. You could have gotten a good advantage by taking his pawn with your knight on move 63 and have a two-pronged pawn advance.
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