An interesting position

2 months ago · Quote · #41
Mats1

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2 months ago · Quote · #42
bishopson

Thank you IM Pfren. I find your analysis very instructive. However, when I put the position into my computer (Houdini Pro running on Core i5 processor), after 30 minutes it gave Rfe8 over Nc5. I'd be curious about how the game would play out then. Of course, black is passive, but will end up with a solid defensible position. So can white eventually break through?
2 months ago · Quote · #43
GM_2012

TetsuoShima wrote:

vaarwel_broek wrote:

...Nc5 with ideas of playing Ne4 or trading it off. The knight isn't doing much sitting on d7.

yes i had the same idea to maybe free the bishop that way, but because i couldnt calculate a line were i was sure it would free the bishop, i thought it would be bad because its a so much better piece then blacks bishop, even though it probably needs to many tempos to ever get developed.
2 months ago · Quote · #44
IM pfren

bishopson wrote:

Thank you IM Pfren. I find your analysis very instructive. However, when I put the position into my computer (Houdini Pro running on Core i5 processor), after 30 minutes it gave Rfe8 over Nc5. I'd be curious about how the game would play out then. Of course, black is passive, but will end up with a solid defensible position. So can white eventually break through?

30 minutes is not enough for an engine to conclude. Anyway...

After 18...Rfe8 19.h4! the engines suggest countering with 19...h5, which initially is evaluated as almost equal. However, the truth is that after 20.c3! (the d3 bishop is valuable, once Black has volutarily weakened the g6 square) Black is at a loss. My Houdini after ten minutes says +0.70, which is less than fair: Black is definitely in deep trouble. If Black does not play 19...h5, then white does play h4-h5 himself, with a multitude of dangerous threats.
2 months ago · Quote · #45
varelse1

So what would have been the correct plan for black there?
2 months ago · Quote · #46
IM pfren

varelse1 wrote:

So what would have been the correct plan for black there?

Umm... reading my previous posts, probably?
2 months ago · Quote · #47
Elephant007

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2 months ago · Quote · #48
karapiper

@elephant007: look post #43 please and don't trust your computer always!
2 months ago · Quote · #49
Prat10

black idea's-- can bring knight to c4/c5 or try to exchange the knights,doubling rooks in the semi-open c-file,play(opening up the) queenside

white's plans--playing kingside,attacking blacks kingside by playing g4 & h4..,doubling rooks in g file
7 weeks ago · Quote · #50
Stormstout

Thanks for the post.
5 weeks ago · Quote · #51
warrior689

i raly have no idea