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Analysis in Arena GUI help


  • 5 years ago · Quote · #1

    playe4

    Hi

    Can someone give me help on analysing in Arena.

    I have one of my games loaded & Rybka engine loaded & I click on the analysis button &  on the board white makes the first move but I get no analysis output & nothing further happens. I looked at the help menu & the analysis topic tells me to do that action-so what is wrong (why no output analysis?).

    I will try another engine (see if I have Crafty installed) but if anyone has any helpful information on how to analyse played games in Arena I would be grateful.

    Thanks

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #2

    Skwerly

    Sometimes, the engine installed can have funky outputs, or none at all.  I suggest trying a different engine or two to see how they work.  :)

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #3

    JG27Pyth

    playe4 wrote:

    Hi

    Can someone give me help on analysing in Arena.

    I have one of my games loaded & Rybka engine loaded & I click on the analysis button &  on the board white makes the first move but I get no analysis output & nothing further happens. I looked at the help menu & the analysis topic tells me to do that action-so what is wrong (why no output analysis?).

    I will try another engine (see if I have Crafty installed) but if anyone has any helpful information on how to analyse played games in Arena I would be grateful.

    Thanks


    I've given up on Arena! It's so over-featured and clumsy and non-intuitive and buggy... you can pick up an old version of fritz very cheap and it'll load Rybka or Glarung or Toga and be much easier for analysis. Better yet drop around 50 bucks and get Rybka aquarium 3 and have top notch analysis and a very nice interface. Sorry, that's honestly my best advice. I think Arena is pennywise/pound-foolish if your time has any value.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #4

    AnthonyCG

    I agree, Arena just has a clumsy setup. I've always fancied Shredder's GUI. Really simple to use;
  • 5 years ago · Quote · #5

    playe4

    Thanks for your replies & comments on my post for Arena analysis help.

    I was using Rybka engine which does have an analysis function (which works in Winboard) and I don't know why it didn't work for me in Arena. Soon I hope to try Crafty engine in Arena for analysis....

    I do have some notion of Arena's non intuitive GUI but it seems to have plenty of features (if you can figure out how to use them!).

    I do have Fritz9 & again I have used that for analysis but I haven't been too impressed as it seems to have 2 modes-blundercheck & full. Full analysis with it takes ages & I don't want that (is there a way to fine tune it?).

    The best GUI I have is Babas chess (I use it mainly for FICS play but perhaps I can try using it for my own vs engine games & it has plenty of features). I use Crafty to analyse my games from Babas & it works quickly & well.

    If anyone else has any comments on Arena for analysis I would still like to hear...

    Regards

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #6

    djbl

    i use arena all the time with rybka 2.2, 2.2n2 and 3 and find it no problem at all. set up your engines (it can analyse with 3 enigines at once) and your position, hit analyse and hey preston. to go through the lines just right click on the analyse tab and hey presto up pops the variations window, what could be simpler? a little time with it and you will find it a great little gui, as does vasik himself and it is his recommended free gui for rybka ('easily the best free gui'...vasik, rybka homepage). now can he really be so wrong?

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #7

    JG27Pyth

    djbl wrote:

    i use arena all the time with rybka 2.2, 2.2n2 and 3 and find it no problem at all. set up your engines (it can analyse with 3 enigines at once) and your position, hit analyse and hey preston. to go through the lines just right click on the analyse tab and hey presto up pops the variations window, what could be simpler? a little time with it and you will find it a great little gui, as does vasik himself and it is his recommended free gui for rybka ('easily the best free gui'...gvasik, rybka homepae). now can he really be so wrong?


      I'm curious, is your main interest computer chess? or chess? ... I strongly get the feeling that Arena is built by and for people fascinated by computer chess (which I by no means look down on! But it's a slightly different hobby than plain chess) -- and your being on a first name basis with the lead Rybka developer kind of rings "computer chess enthusiast" to me, as does analyzing with 3 engines at once... If I'm right and you're all about the engines...please take this word back to your community:

    HELP! We really want to use your free interface! Could you please make it more user-friendly for us mostly-chess-players!

    I'm only slightly stupid, and Gonnosuke isn't stupid at all, and unless he's revised his opinion we both think Arena is wack.

  • 5 years ago · Quote · #8

    thisguyheisaguy

    I only started using Arena recently.  I tend to use Ruffian v1.0.5 on it as it's the strongest engine I currently have, but if anyone can reccomend a better free engine I'm willing to listen.  Personally, I think it's a great interface and, even better, we all know it's free.  It seems to be worth getting to know, despite it not being as flashy as popular/commercial chess programs. Having said that, I acknowledge that it isn't the easiest thing to start using immediately, but then is chess the easiest game to start playing immediately?  I think it's being overlooked and under-rated by many, and despite the short amount of time during which I've been using it, as well as my limited knowledge of its features, I feel like it's already been beneficial to me as a chess player.

     

    Go for it =]

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #9

    playe4

    Thanks for the further comments about Arena chess GUI.

    I'm sure it is a good chess gui but it does take some getting used too!

    I am now trying to play a match with one chess engine versus another and as yet I can see no clear explanation in Help menu on how to do this! (I see a window showing extensive engine tournament options & that seems a bit complicated!).

    I hope to figure this out...regards

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #10

    PeterArt

    Well you can do it in Arena, in 2 ways.

    if you have some kind of position in pgn format you can just click analyze button, its below the move list. Some chess engines dont show moves analyzed, in the area below the board positions and possible future moves are rated. this gives an idea how good your position is.

    If you want to analyze a complete game, then you got to get used to the previous output (but thats realy verry detailed compared to other 'comercial' ones.
    well if you got use to it, then you can instruct Arena to analyze every move this wag and put it in a text file; from the menu on top chooche  Engines > automatic analysis  (or press SHIFT control A ).  >> while arena is doing this you can see the output for each move below the board watch the valeus !

    oh and pressing ctrl F12 brings up the analysis board that actualy shows those solutions from the bottom of the main bord

     

    No its not graphical its analysis but verry informative.

    But its free, verry good configurable (colors sounds etc)

    no you dont have to be a computer geek, but a degree in psychoanalysis for people with questions helps a lot these days. As computers are only logic, something most people refuse.

    Know that it helps to read and invest times in a bit more complex software. You get rewarded for it..

    Since the creators of Arena dont want to get into conflicts with comercial software i think its no longer realy actively suported, no new versions are planned its not like windows (95 98 xp 2000 win7 ..etc), here they realised that well like windows XP its good enough and so as i too believe this program is finished. But having that said, note that how strong it is depends on the engines you use, you can find weak as wel as strong engines for free these days, and those define your analysis...


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