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Boring Draw


  • 16 months ago · Quote · #1

    elo123

    Was there anyway me or my opponent could have improved in this game, preferably a missed tactic, that would have kept this game from being drawn?



  • 16 months ago · Quote · #2

    Scottrf

    10. Qxd8 Rxd8 (or Kxd8) 11. Nxe5.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #3

    Scottrf

    I just realised you were black.

    I think (can't be bothered to calculate), that playing 33...h4 and giving white the move might mean you could outflank and attack his pawns.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #4

    Moneychess16

    white is missing to many good moves where would they could of been up a piece

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #5

    Stormstout

    @Scottrf nope. It's a draw even if 34.Ke3 Ke5! 35.Kf3 Kd4 36.Kf2. g5 pawn is too close.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #6

    Insanistis

    33...h4 draws

    27...h4 seems more interesting

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #7

    LoveYouSoMuch

    white's 5 e3 is an inaccuracy. Bb4+ is right, but you should wreck his pawn structure with dxe3 (same if he had played 6 Bd2 - still dxe3 exploiting the pin and threatening exf2+)

    as played the position after move 15 feels quite drawish.
    that said, 27.. h4 might or might not win - work it out yourself. :p

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #8

    dzikus

    You were lucky white did not exploit your blunder

    12...Qxd1?? 13.Bxd1 would leave white with a piece up!

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #9

    waffllemaster

    33...h4 wins.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #10

    LoveYouSoMuch

    close but no - leads to a Q vs Q ending i think.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #11

    waffllemaster

    Oh, I see white queens too.  Well it's a good try anyway :p

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #12

    LoveYouSoMuch

    yeah. it'd show good form to at least try it :P

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #13

    GainCity

    31.Ke3? Why did you not take the initiative and push into his territory. Ke3 solidifies a draw while Kd4 gives white the oppurtunity to win.

    Edit: i was unaware that you were black. I would say that you were lucky to excape with half a point, white had many chances that were not capitalised on.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #14

    LongIslandMark

    What I see at the end game (starting around move 30 to 33) is if White goes after the black a and b pawns and Black goes after the g and h pawns then black wins by one move.

    As far as opening/mid-game: why not for White: 10. QxQ+, 11. NxN?

    Edit: as Scottrf posted.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #15

    dzikus

    GainCity napisał:

    31.Ke3? Why did you not take the initiative and push into his territory. Ke3 solidifies a draw while Kd4 gives white the oppurtunity to win.

    Edit: i was unaware that you were black. I would say that you were lucky to excape with half a point, white had many chances that were not capitalised on.

    If you mean 31.Kd4 instead of 31.Ke3 then a simple calculation comes:

    31.Kd4 h4 32.g4 Kf4 and now white has 9 moves to queen (Kc5-b5xa6xb5, a4-a5-a6-a7-a8) and black needs 7 (Kg3xh3xg4, h4-h3-h2-h1)

    Black would win the race, moreover Qh1 controls a8 and block a7-a8

    Thus 31.Ke3 was the right move otherwise white would lose

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #16

    LoveYouSoMuch

    after 31 Kd4 white has a few (unlikely) chances to go wrong. imo black's best try is h4 and then

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #17

    Insanistis

    27...h4 proof it's 0-1

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #18

    FrodoPiano

    You and/or your opponent shouldn't have moved your kings like that. You should have moved them in different directions, which would have lengthened your game. Even though there would be a boring endgame, it would be possible to capture pawns and promote. However, the chances of that would be extremely unlikely, and so I think the game should have been a draw overall. Good game.

  • 16 months ago · Quote · #19

    GainCity

    dzikus wrote:
    GainCity napisał:

    31.Ke3? Why did you not take the initiative and push into his territory. Ke3 solidifies a draw while Kd4 gives white the oppurtunity to win.

    Edit: i was unaware that you were black. I would say that you were lucky to excape with half a point, white had many chances that were not capitalised on.

    If you mean 31.Kd4 instead of 31.Ke3 then a simple calculation comes:

    31.Kd4 h4 32.g4 Kf4 and now white has 9 moves to queen (Kc5-b5xa6xb5, a4-a5-a6-a7-a8) and black needs 7 (Kg3xh3xg4, h4-h3-h2-h1)

    Black would win the race, moreover Qh1 controls a8 and block a7-a8

    Thus 31.Ke3 was the right move otherwise white would lose

    32. g4?? is a terrible blunder and as loveyou pointed out, 32.gxh4 also leads to a draw. My point was that white was definitely better and if black did not play 31...h4 then he would be in a losing position, but h4 creates an equal position, and in a game filled with blunders the sharpest possible move Kd4 gives white his only chance to win.


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