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Caro beginnings


  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1

    Evinadabef

    Analyze please, I could have done better despite it was a win. 

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #2

    k_kostov

     Why did you play 4...e6?
     
  • 18 months ago · Quote · #4

    pt22064

    I don't think white's second move, Bc4, is legitimate, although I will have to research this.  In fact, it looked like white was in trouble until black made a series of blunders to turn the advantage over to white. 

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #5

    IpswichMatt

    Bc4 is the HillBilly Attack! Great name, but Bc4 is garbage since after cxd5 Black gains a tempo with the attack on the Bishop, as happened in the game

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caro%E2%80%93Kann_Defence

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #6

    Evinadabef

    k_kostov wrote:
     Why did you play 4...e6?
     

    ...typical CK move!

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #7

    IpswichMatt

    It is, but ideally you want the light-squared Bishop outside the pawn chain (e.g. 4...Bf5) before playing ...e6. That's sort of the point of ...c6 in the Caro Kann (and in the Slav) - you're defending the d-pawn with the c-pawn (rather than the e-pawn) in order to not block in the light-squared Bishop

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #8

    Evinadabef

    IpswichMatt wrote:

    It is, but ideally you want the light-squared Bishop outside the pawn chain (e.g. 4...Bf5) before playing ...e6. That's sort of the point of ...c6 in the Caro Kann (and in the Slav) - you're defending the d-pawn with the c-pawn (rather than the e-pawn) in order to not block in the light-squared Bishop

    Thanks, I think I was too concerned about defending the center that really should have gotten Bf5 out first

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #9

    k_kostov

    Evinadabef wrote:
    k_kostov wrote:
     Why did you play 4...e6?
     

    ...typical CK move!

    Why do you think so? It leads to a worse position, so it shouldn't be typical. Whoever has told you that it is has lied to you.

     In the opening, you should aim for center control, piece development, creating a good pawn structure, king safety, sometimes gaining space, and other similar things. But 4...e6 does none of them, and also it's not forced or otherwise necessary. If you had no other reason for playing it, you'd better have considered some other options.
     
     
  • 18 months ago · Quote · #10

    EliasAStern

    yeah i play the ck myself and e6 so early was definately a mistake. your center was adequately defended and the whole point of the ck is that it allows you to develop your lsb. also on move 19 my preferance would have been Rfc8 because the rook on the a file is already active while the one on the f file is kind of out of play at the moment. otherwise there were a lot of mistakes. try to think carefully about your moves to make sure you arent hanging a piece. if you are hanging pieces and blundering it doesnt matter how well you are playing. Lastly you should always have a plan. I could see that when you were up in material you were trying to trade pieces, however, in doing so you were overextending yourself and worsening your position.


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