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4th July 2009, 07:35am
#1
by Xtos
San Sebastian Spain
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 13

Hi everybody

 

I've played a game I lose badly (my fault, I didn't see tha checkmate).

 

I got surprised when i studied the game with the Fritz engine and every movement my opponent made was the reccomended one by the engine ... What would you do in my situation? IHave I to report?

EDIT : When I played against him he was 1309 rating

4th July 2009, 07:44am
#2
by dragon27
chess.com Malaysia
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 1261

Well, it is a great Coincidence! He may also be cheating... its hard to say... I suggest you talk to the chess.com staff and discuss with them the matter..

4th July 2009, 07:45am
#3
by Izjar
Miami United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 675

That was Fritz in deed, too good. Ask the site admins about this.

4th July 2009, 07:47am
#4
by bondiggity
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 1769

7 book moves, and 7 moves played out of book. I don't really think that is enough to accuse cheating. The only thing that is slightly suspicious is the Nb4 maneuver to allow ...f5. Seems fairly sophisticated for a player his level. All in all, the game is way too short to make and definitive conclusions.

4th July 2009, 07:49am
#5
by turkey_12345act
A Secret Place United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 367

Pretty sharp play for a 1309 . . . :o

4th July 2009, 07:52am
#6
by turkey_12345act
A Secret Place United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 367

Wait, I just looked him up! He joined July 4th, today. That means that he is still finding his true rating. He's only played two games. I believe that this means that he is a much stronger player than 1300 but he hasn't played enough games for that to be reflected in his rating. I now find it very unlikely that he was cheating; he simply was much stronger than 1300.

4th July 2009, 08:03am
#7
by bigmac30
devon England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 620

it was all straaight forward and as your peices were so very badly placed just coincedence i think

4th July 2009, 08:03am
#8
by dragon27
chess.com Malaysia
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 1261
turkey_12345act wrote:

Wait, I just looked him up! He joined July 4th, today. That means that he is still finding his true rating. He's only played two games. I believe that this means that he is a much stronger player than 1300 but he hasn't played enough games for that to be reflected in his rating. I now find it very unlikely that he was cheating; he simply was much stronger than 1300.


 Ahh... i am now starting to agree with you a little...

4th July 2009, 08:11am
#9
by Xtos
San Sebastian Spain
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 13

Thanks for the info. I will try to play better next time! :)

4th July 2009, 09:07am
#10
by Niven42
West Lafayette, Indiana United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 3798
Izjar wrote:

That was Fritz in deed, too good. Ask the site admins about this.


 Fast mates are more of a hallmark of a sneaky player, not a computer program.

 

If playing against suspicious players bothers you, you can try an anti-computer line like the Mason Attack, Bird's opening, or some of Pecci's strategies against Fritz:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=105395

4th July 2009, 09:46am
#11
by KAKROACH
India
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 511
Niven42 wrote:
Izjar wrote:

That was Fritz in deed, too good. Ask the site admins about this.


 Fast mates are more of a hallmark of a sneaky player, not a computer program.

 

If playing against suspicious players bothers you, you can try an anti-computer line like the Mason Attack, Bird's opening, or some of Pecci's strategies against Fritz:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=105395


wonderful idea

4th July 2009, 10:12am
#12
by rdecredico
Hangin With His Holiness Vatican City
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 437

Engine used.

 

Period.

4th July 2009, 10:12am
#13
by cat_of_chess
Jeanerette, LA United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 1166

hes not cheeting.hes just good.He play 1650 lvele.some times ppl play better then ther rating 

4th July 2009, 10:19am
#14
by rdecredico
Hangin With His Holiness Vatican City
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 437

Nb4 is not the move of a player U2200.

Ever.

4th July 2009, 10:39am
#15
by General_Lee
Arlington, Tx United States
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 85

I think people on this site accuse of cheating too much. I understand that it really hurts when you lose a game. I hate it, but i must say I have been accused of cheating, and i dont care, because i know the truth. He played well, but you didnt play that well. And the game is very much a book opening. You fell for the old NxP trick, so that is your fault. He hasnt played enough to make an accurate assumption of how well he plays. Play against him again. Analyze again, THEN make the assumption.

4th July 2009, 10:39am
#16
by KAKROACH
India
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 511

It is inconcievable that so many coincidences can happen in a single game. For sure a case of cheating . Appropriate actions should be taken.

4th July 2009, 10:52am
#17
by YeOldeWildman
Silicon Valley, California United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 528

I think it's wrong to accuse someone of cheating in a public forum.  There is a Report Abuse button at the bottom of the page.  It's the staff's job to sort that out. 

4th July 2009, 11:01am
#18
by atomichicken
United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 1285

I hope the OP is not listening to anyone who says that they cheated.

4th July 2009, 11:06am
#19
by KAKROACH
India
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 511
atomichicken wrote:

I hope the OP is not listening to anyone who says that they cheated.


A cheater can be caught  by a cheater only. Can we say?

4th July 2009, 11:09am
#20
by atomichicken
United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 1285
KAKROACH wrote:
atomichicken wrote:

I hope the OP is not listening to anyone who says that they cheated.


A cheater can be caught  by a cheater only. Can we say?


Troll alert. No one feed this guy.

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