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Could I have won?


  • 7 years ago · Quote · #1

    JFercan

    I want to know if I should have done something differently that would have enable me to win this game from this position.  I really thought I had it, but then I run out of ideas.


  • 7 years ago · Quote · #2

    Loomis

    How about 6. ... Ne5. It gets the knight out of harm's way, prevents perpetual check by the queen, prevents the rook from coming to d2, and gets the knight closer to the attack on the king.

     

    6. ... Qd2 is another idea. But I think white still has a perpetual check 7. Qh5+ Kg7 8. Qg4+ Kh6 9. Qh4+


  • 7 years ago · Quote · #3

    ChessDweeb

    I like 5.Qc5+. It forces the King into the center. I think White has good chances after that.
  • 7 years ago · Quote · #4

    JFercan

    Yes, but I'm playing black and I want to win???
  • 7 years ago · Quote · #5

    Loomis

    I think ChessDweeb intended 4. ... Qc5+ to keep the king from going to g1. Black is trying to win there!

     

    And black is trying to win in the first suggestion I gave. The second suggestion white still draws, but I thought it was worth mentioning anyway. 


  • 7 years ago · Quote · #6

    ChessDweeb

    after 4 kxf2 I meant 4...Qc5+.
  • 7 years ago · Quote · #7

    Whotanobb

    Rf1+,Rxf1,Qxf1#
  • 7 years ago · Quote · #8

    Loomis

    Whotanobb wrote: Rf1+,Rxf1,Qxf1#

     I don't think this is ever a legal sequence of moves.


  • 7 years ago · Quote · #9

    JFercan

    Now that sound like a plan.   My train of thought was to seclude the king to the corner, but as later seen it backfired.  Getting him out might have giving me a better chance.  Thank you ChessDweeb & Loomis.
  • 7 years ago · Quote · #10

    Whotanobb

    6....Rf1;7.Rxf1-Qxf1#

    That was I think.

  • 7 years ago · Quote · #11

    Whotanobb

    Sorry, my mistake.

     

  • 7 years ago · Quote · #12

    almighty

    I too am a novice here! So this may be a blunder, but what about 1. ... Rae1 ?
  • 7 years ago · Quote · #13

    Loomis

    1. ... Rae8 allows the white bishop to escape from g7. Though perhaps winning this bishop at the expense of the king's pawn shield is not worth it.
  • 7 years ago · Quote · #14

    GamerRW

    I agree with ChessDwweb, 4...Qc5+ gives white many chances.

    If 5. Ke1??, then 5...Qe3+.  6.Kf1 Rf8#.

    If 5. Kf3??, then 5...Ne5 forks the king and queen.

    if 5. Kg3??, then 5...Rg8 wins the queen.

    If 5. Kf1??, then 5...Rf8+.  If 6.Ke1, then 6...Qf2#.  If 6.Ke2, then 6...Qf2+ 7.Kd3 Ne5 forks the king and queen.

    This only leaves 5. Ke2 which gives  black many options but no obvious next move.


  • 7 years ago · Quote · #15

    JFercan

    I love this site.  You guys are great.  I will defently become a better chess player with the help of people like you.

     

    Thank you again.

     

    GamerRW your input is great.  Thank you. 


  • 7 years ago · Quote · #16

    GamerRW

    If 5. Ke2, then 5...Qe7+ looks promising. 

    If 6. Kd3 or 6. Kf3, then 6...Ne5 forks the king and queen.

    If 6. Ke3, then 6...Re8+ eventually leads to white losing his rook and checkmate.

    If 6. Kf1 or 6. Kf2, then 6....Rf8+ 7. Kg1 Rf6 and white has good chances. 

     


  • 7 years ago · Quote · #17

    Skillz88

    yeh u should of won!! (sorry for posting so late but i accidently pressed the back button)

    6... Ne5 7... Qe2 and hopefully Queen takes rook but if he does something, dont worry u could of done 8... Rf1+ his rook takes, ur queen takes CHECKMATE!!

  • 7 years ago · Quote · #18

    GamerRW

    That should have been, leaves black good chances but I do not see a sure win here.
  • 7 years ago · Quote · #19

    GamerRW

    Skillz88 wrote:

    yeh u should of won!! (sorry for posting so late but i accidently pressed the back button)

    6... Ne5 7... Qe2 and hopefully Queen takes rook but if he does something, dont worry u could of done 8... Rf1+ his rook takes, ur queen takes CHECKMATE!!


     What if white plays 7. Qb1


  • 7 years ago · Quote · #20

    Loomis

    GamerRW wrote: Skillz88 wrote:

    yeh u should of won!! (sorry for posting so late but i accidently pressed the back button)

    6... Ne5 7... Qe2 and hopefully Queen takes rook but if he does something, dont worry u could of done 8... Rf1+ his rook takes, ur queen takes CHECKMATE!!


     What if white plays 7. Qb1


     6. ... Ne5 7. Qb1 Nd3 threatening Nf2+. White can't take on d3 because of the back rank vulnerability.  6. ...  Ne5 is very good as I indicated in my first post. There are some good moves earlier as others have pointed out.



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