Getting bullied! Please help. Adviice needed.

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23rd June 2009, 11:06pm
#1
by Lousy
Sunway Malaysia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 268

I got bullied in this game. I thought I could play the e5 pawn break but it never happen. Maybe b6 should be played earlier but when?

 

I apprecieate it very much if someone could help me improve my game. Let me know how I should approach this type of position because I have lost some other games from this.

 

Many thanks in advance.

23rd June 2009, 11:20pm
#2
by Lousy
Sunway Malaysia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 268

Another game I lost resulting from these positions. What chess skills do I need to play these positions well? Should I change my opening repertoire?

23rd June 2009, 11:24pm
#3
by moopster
Evanston, IL United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 150

...19. Bxe5 is your best move, that way you do not go down an exchange.  Also, during the game you should have tried to develop your light squared bishop and not let it get completely trapped.  In the end game, push your pawns and move your king out, to the center of the board while trying to get very active peices.  Moving your king back and forth while he steamrolled you is stupid.

23rd June 2009, 11:28pm
#4
by moopster
Evanston, IL United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 150

In the second one, you were fine until you copletely ingnored the fact that he was going to checkmate you.  The most important part of a chess game is king safety. 

I would play an indian defense if you can't handle the queens gambit, or I would play a slav defense, seeing as you sort of play a semi-slav right now. 

23rd June 2009, 11:30pm
#5
by Lousy
Sunway Malaysia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 268

In game 2, the reason I moved 12..Re8 is to push e5.

Another game I lost from the same position. It seems like I will never learn Yell.

What should Black do?

23rd June 2009, 11:36pm
#6
by Lousy
Sunway Malaysia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 268
moopster wrote:

...19. Bxe5 is your best move, that way you do not go down an exchange.  Also, during the game you should have tried to develop your light squared bishop and not let it get completely trapped.  In the end game, push your pawns and move your king out, to the center of the board while trying to get very active peices.  Moving your king back and forth while he steamrolled you is stupid.


Thanks Moopster for your reply. Aprreciate your comments. The reason I did not play 19...Bxe5 is that I did not see 20. Ng6 and because either Rxe5 or dxe5 gives White a good game. My position at move 19 is already bad.

So it means I made I make a dreadful error before. I just trying to identify a better move bofore that.

 

I was trying to create a fortress position to make it hard for white to break through. I don't want open files for White since I am an exchange down.Rooks operate better in open files. I want to keep the position close.

Another option is to exchange as many pawns as possible. But this is what I don't like because both sides have too many pawns to make it feasible.

23rd June 2009, 11:51pm
#7
by Lousy
Sunway Malaysia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 268
moopster wrote:

In the second one, you were fine until you copletely ingnored the fact that he was going to checkmate you.  The most important part of a chess game is king safety.


Actually I didn't ignore his attack but rather I couldn't find any good defensive moves to counter his attack or start some counter play to divert his attention from attacking me.

Anybody out there that can help?

24th June 2009, 12:59am
#8
by Estragon
United States
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 217

I think your problem in both the first two games is playing ...Re8 and ...Nb6.  In both cases, an early ...b6 and ...Bb7 is called for.  In both games ...Nb6 accomplishes nothing except wasting time.  And ...Re8 isn't much better - why play it so early?  The fact you didn't get in ...e6-e5 in either game tells me the R isn't well placed on e8.

In combination, the two moves are almost suicide!  The N which might justify the Re8 move by supporting ...e6-e5, goes skipping off to the other side - losing two tempi to gain one!

In most QGD lines, Black faces challenges in developing his Queenside, and so planning that development should take precedence over moving pieces a second time.  After White's Bxf6, Black needs to complete his development as quickly as possible, and then seek to open up the position with ...e6-e5 or ...c6-c5 to take advantage of his Bishop pair.

24th June 2009, 01:02am
#9
by Estragon
United States
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 217

Oh, and to answer the specific question of when to play ...b6, I would suggest at move 10 in the first game, and either move 10 or 11 in the second, although the resulting positions will be much different depending upon which you choose.

24th June 2009, 02:49am
#10
by bigmac30
devon England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 441

have you considered things like bb4 then taking the bishop with the pawn and mabee  not castling

24th June 2009, 03:25am
#11
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 4161

In games 2 and 3 you should have played 11... e5

24th June 2009, 03:27am
#12
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 4161

In this particular variation the rook is more useful on f8 ( to protect f7) and isnt really needed for the e5 break.

24th June 2009, 04:00am
#13
by Joffan
Canada
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 10

In the second game, what's the finish for White, if any, after 26.... g6?

Hang on I see it,  push the h pawn and work the queen around.

24th June 2009, 04:33am
#14
by LoneWolfEburg
Ekaterinburg Russia
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 298

I don't understand. Who bullies the OP? If that bullying happens at chess.com, you have the "report abuse" button.

24th June 2009, 06:34pm
#15
by Lousy
Sunway Malaysia
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 268

Thanks Estragon and Reb for your comments. Appreciate your help.

Joffan => after 26...g6 White just push the h-pawn and aim to move the White Queen to g7 for mate. So 27. h7+ Kh8 28. Qh6 (aiming for g7) Rg8 (protects g7)

29. hxg8 (promotes to Q)+ Kxg8 30. Qg7#

bigmac30 => "have you considered things like bb4 then taking the bishop with the pawn and mabee  not castling"

Sorry bigmac30 I don't understand what you mean. Is it Bb4 or pawn to b4? At which move?

24th June 2009, 06:57pm
#16
by an_arbitrary_name
England
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 131
LoneWolfEburg wrote:

I don't understand. Who bullies the OP? If that bullying happens at chess.com, you have the "report abuse" button.


I think he meant 'dominated', or simply 'beaten'. Losing a chess game is quite different from being bullied.

24th June 2009, 07:00pm
#17
by bolshevikhellraiser
Louisiana United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 98

yes i always play the nimzo indian with b b4 works good for me

24th June 2009, 11:52pm
#18
by bigmac30
devon England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 441

other openings not mutch theory is benko gambit steadily moving all your pieces to the queens side played right you almost allways get a good breakthrough

 

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