Great openning - where is the black mistake

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22nd October 2008, 08:47pm
#1
by ivanlflj
Rio de Janeiro Brazil
Member Since: Oct 2008
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What was the Black mistake before move 25?

 

Did Black still had a chance before 25?

22nd October 2008, 10:32pm
#2
by Fonix
Buffalo, New York United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
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yeah. 19... Ne4?? This is a blunder to say the least.

23rd October 2008, 03:58am
#3
by phmilet
Rio de Janeiro Brazil
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Member Points: 194

Yea, I agree.

Had you played 19. ... g6 and then 20. ... Ne4, things would be fairly equal.

23rd October 2008, 04:00am
#4
by phmilet
Rio de Janeiro Brazil
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 194

And your move 25 is a strategical mistake rather than a tactical one, because it forces a series of unwanted trades (for black).

23rd October 2008, 04:02am
#5
by vsarun
manama India
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 481

nice play by white

23rd October 2008, 04:16am
#6
by MM78
Ireland
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Member Points: 3117

17..Bxd3 is a mistake giving up your strong bishop and enabling the rook lift to h3 to the kingside attack, you should made white exch on g6 if he wants to recapturing with the f pawn and you get the f file.  As two people have commented 19..Ne4 was very bad. 

23rd October 2008, 04:36am
#7
by tag42919022008
India
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Member Points: 49

Yes, I agree with alabaster comments.

23rd October 2008, 04:45am
#8
by xMenace
Rothesay, NB Canada
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I didn't see any use for 15 ... Qc7. I thought immediate queenside expansion was necessary. Maybe a6.

I agree 17 ... Bxd3 was a mistake. You had no worries. hxg6 may look week, but it creates a very tough fortress to crack. He needs to throw pawns giving you tome to expand.

The following opening is one where Bxd3 is considered bad too.

23rd October 2008, 05:02am
#9
by vijaykulkarni
Pune India
Member Since: Mar 2008
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Yes 19.. Ne4 is wrong.. asking for trouble

23rd October 2008, 05:15am
#10
by kco
Perth Australia
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what about after 9.Ngf3 should black take the knight 9... Bxf3 and/or Nd7 strenghten the attack on the d5 sq ?

23rd October 2008, 05:21am
#11
by phmilet
Rio de Janeiro Brazil
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 194
kco wrote:

what about after 9.Ngf3 should black take the knight 9... Bxf3 and/or Nd7 strenghten the attack on the d5 sq ?


 edit: I believe 9. ... Bxf3 is premature, since the white-colored bishop will be important to challenge white's d3-bishop. Nd7 seems like a mistake, since it brings the knight to a more passive position, with no clear compensation.

25th October 2008, 05:24am
#12
by ivanlflj
Rio de Janeiro Brazil
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 16

Thanks everyone!

 

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