How could i have won this?

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26th March 2009, 08:30am
#1
by Simendo
Oslo Norway
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 376

Hey you all...I am just finish playing a game with a very nice guy, and good competitor...All credit to him.

In the end we came to this position. I felt i had a slight advantage, but i struggled to come up with some good moved to win the match. We agreed to draw, but i felt this position could have given me more.

I played white.

Can i win this position, and if so, how? (and was i cowardly of me to request a draw?

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26th March 2009, 08:36am
#2
by klc57690
Missouri United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 119

You should have finished that game.. not only because you would have won (IMO) but mostly because by finishing that game you would be learning more... Requesting that draw seems to show you were afraid... don't be afraid when you're up material.

First move... fork the king and a4

26th March 2009, 08:40am
#3
by Simendo
Oslo Norway
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 376

Thank you for that comment. Yes you can probably say that i got a little afraid...i some times think way to much about my rating, and therefore i dont take the "risks" or dear to try getting the winning moves...i know that is not very good, and that i have to stop doing that...I got the chess.com`s computer anaysis back now, and it showed me that i have mate in 26 from this position...i would really like to see the solution...

26th March 2009, 08:46am
#4
by simon_p
Bangkok Thailand
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 26

You could have won as follows....

26th March 2009, 08:48am
#5
by klc57690
Missouri United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 119

i'm not so good at endgames but here is what i see next... black will push pawn and king to promotion. just sacrifice your knight for that last pawn and then race that pawn up the board (of course im sure there is a way to not sacrifice the knight, and if you do make sure the black king is out of the square of the pawn when he takes the knight) can't have him beating the pawn to the bank rank!

26th March 2009, 08:49am
#6
by Simendo
Oslo Norway
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 376

Thank you...now i see how easily that could have been done...i should have use longe time thinking about it...I have really learned my lesson here...

26th March 2009, 08:50am
#7
by klc57690
Missouri United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 119

as i was writing that simon diagrammed it out (pictures are better than words)

26th March 2009, 08:53am
#8
by Simendo
Oslo Norway
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 376

Yes...but you have helped me realise that i have to stop worrying about points and ranking, and just play, learning and finding winnings moves, even if it means i sometimes will get it wrong and loose:) Thank you all again for your support and help.

26th March 2009, 09:13am
#9
by Lattas
Ballstad Norway
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 320

Med hvit i trekket, kunne du vunnet i løpet av 21 trekk, på denne måten:
With white to move, you could have won within 21 moves, like this:

26th March 2009, 09:15am
#10
by Lattas
Ballstad Norway
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 320

Her har du fasit for 6 brikker eller mindre:
Here you have the answer/solution for 6 pieces or less:
http://www.gmchess.com/endgames/

Bruk "move list" under diagrammet for å sjekke andre varianter.
Use "move list" below the diagram for checking other lines.

Legg merke til hvordan den nye dronningen stanser flukten til kongen,
og hvordan den hvite kongen samarbeider ved å lese svarts neste trekk.
Look how the new queen stop the escape from the king,
and how the white king co-operate after reading what's blacks next move.

26th March 2009, 12:06pm
#11
by Simendo
Oslo Norway
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 376

Hjertelig takk lattas...Dette var til stor hjelp, og jeg ser jo nå at jeg i det minste burde turt å spille springeren til c5, og vunnet etter det. Takk for at du tok deg tid til å forklare:)

27th March 2009, 06:07am
#12
by Lattas
Ballstad Norway
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 320

Bare hyggelig :)

27th March 2009, 06:17am
#13
by H2oh
United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 48

At the right time sac the Knight for the pawn then you queen your pawn. Your King is better than his.

27th March 2009, 06:19am
#14
by Dokiel
England
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 24

You could simply have boiled an egg and won that way!

28th March 2009, 08:30am
#15
by Daniel3
Canada
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 612

This Endgame is totally won for White. Because of the knight fork, you will gain an invaluable tempo in the Endgame (Sometimes this is enough to win!) and also immediately made your knight disposable; because you can sacrifice the knight for the pawn and still queen.

28th March 2009, 02:41pm
#16
by NM tonydal
United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4516

By the way, in answer to your other question: no, I don't think it was cowardly to request a draw. If you don't see a win, you should take the half-point (you will feel far worse I think playing on in a position that you don't really understand and losing than taking an immediate draw...at least, I would!).

1st April 2009, 03:26am
#17
by lph
Unadilla,Ga. United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 487

I agree with both post you could won, but if time was a factor it's hard to come up with a good plan.

1st April 2009, 03:28am
#18
by Simendo
Oslo Norway
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 376

This was not a matter of time...i think i just was a coward, and thougt more about how bad it would be to loose(and i did not se how to win it right away), rather then going for the win...I am trying to stop doing that kind of stuff, and dont think that much about rating points...

 

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