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22nd January 2008, 11:41am
#21
by Fotoman
Philippines
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Probably a draw with correct play.
22nd January 2008, 11:48am
#22
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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Sunshiny, that's a good line. Can white try this:

30. b6 Rxg2+

31. Kh1 a6

32. Qc3 threatening Qc7. Now I'm not sure what's best for black. 32. ... Qd8 for example might allow 33. Rxe3.


22nd January 2008, 11:48am
#23
by Sunshiny
United States
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That's exactly how i saw it ending, but i wasn't sure if black would try anything different.
22nd January 2008, 11:57am
#24
by Sunshiny
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After 32. Qc3 i'd probably try to defend with 32. ... Qe7 attacking both the Kn and P on e4.
22nd January 2008, 12:00pm
#25
by dalmatinac
Croatia
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Fotoman, 34...Qxd5?  is bad move better move is 34...Qd3 35.Rae1 Qxb5 36.Rxe3 Qxd5   but it is still hard to win for black,I still belive that 1.b6 is the strongest move for white
22nd January 2008, 12:08pm
#26
by demuxer
Guatemala Guatemala
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wow, I didnt see all your moves, thanks guys.

You show me i hadnt already won that game.

unfortunely, my friend played Rxe3 and lost 


22nd January 2008, 12:10pm
#27
by dalmatinac
Croatia
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I was in right.If he played 1.b6 he wouldn't lose and white would have good chances for win.
22nd January 2008, 12:11pm
#28
by Fotoman
Philippines
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White wins this variation
22nd January 2008, 12:14pm
#29
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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Fotoman, try Sunshiny's suggestion of 32. ... Rg3 threatening Qxh3# and as Sunshiny pointed out, 33. Rxg3 fxg3 is good for black.

 

I'm still not certain what happens after 32. Qc3 in that line.


22nd January 2008, 12:15pm
#30
by dalmatinac
Croatia
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32...Rfg8?? blunder   CORRECT MOVE IS 32... Rg3!
22nd January 2008, 12:15pm
#31
by Fotoman
Philippines
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dalmatinac wrote: Fotoman, 34...Qxd5?  is bad move better move is 34...Qd3 35.Rae1 Qxb5 36.Rxe3 Qxd5   but it is still hard to win for black,I still belive that 1.b6 is the strongest move for white

I would agree, thanks.

The point I was trying to make was clearer in my second post that b6 is better. I think the moral to this story is: No matter what first impression a position has, always look for a way to take advantage of a weak back rank, and B6 does precisely that.

22nd January 2008, 12:17pm
#32
by dalmatinac
Croatia
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32.Qxe3 is mistake the strongest move is 32.Qc3!
22nd January 2008, 12:18pm
#33
by dalmatinac
Croatia
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Let's try this variation with  32.Qc3!  this is possible the strongest move for white
22nd January 2008, 12:21pm
#34
by Sunshiny
United States
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32. Qc3 Qe7

Black plans to eventually play Rg3 to move away from danger and remove the white rook defender. 


22nd January 2008, 12:33pm
#35
by Sunshiny
United States
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Or instead of Rg3, double up the rooks with hRh8
22nd January 2008, 12:38pm
#36
by arigalt
Guatemala Guatemala
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b6 its the way
22nd January 2008, 12:50pm
#37
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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32. Qc3 Qe7 33. Rxe3. This is the idea that I gave before. I don't see an immediate win for black. Though I've been wrong before :-).
22nd January 2008, 01:04pm
#38
by Sunshiny
United States
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33. ... fxe3

 If 34. Kxg2 Rf2+ followed by 35. ... Qxd6 threatening mate again.


22nd January 2008, 01:17pm
#39
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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35. Kh1 Qd6 36. Qh8+ Rf8 37. e5

This position has a lot of play for both sides! 


22nd January 2008, 01:25pm
#40
by Sunshiny
United States
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37. ... Qxd5+ winning the white queen.

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