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21st January 2008, 05:10pm
#1
by demuxer
Guatemala Guatemala
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 540

ok dudes, I was black here, but i just want to know whats your suggestions for WHITE, can he saves the game?

 

 


21st January 2008, 05:12pm
#2
by saberaxe
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 6

 pawn to g3 if a good move

 


21st January 2008, 05:15pm
#3
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 3075

30. g3?? loses to 30. ... Rg2+ 31. Kh1 Qxh3#

 

But what about 30. Qxe3 fxe3 31. Rxf8+ Kc7 32. Rc8+ Kxd3 33. Rxc2 


21st January 2008, 05:40pm
#4
by FormulamaticHero
Lexington, Ky United States
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Member Points: 20
What about 30. a6
21st January 2008, 06:10pm
#5
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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Member Points: 3075
30. a6 Rxg2+ 31. Kh1 Rg3 and it looks to me like h3 can't be held.
21st January 2008, 06:24pm
#6
by dalmatinac
Croatia
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Member Points: 3201
1.b6 is strongest move for white
21st January 2008, 06:36pm
#7
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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30. b6 is strong indeed. Black has to deal with the immediate threat of bxa7 followed by Qxb7 winning for white. And if black plays 30. ... a6 then the idea I gave for black is improved 31. Qxe3 and the f-pawn is pinned because now Rxf8 leads to mate.
21st January 2008, 06:50pm
#8
by dalmatinac
Croatia
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what white played 1st move?  Probably 1st move was blunder
21st January 2008, 07:49pm
#9
by Am3692
Newbury Park, CA United States
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I would say Qxe3 would be the best path.
21st January 2008, 07:52pm
#10
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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Member Points: 3075
Am3692, given that line and the b6 line were already given, why do you think Qxe3 is better than b6?
21st January 2008, 08:00pm
#11
by dalmatinac
Croatia
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1.b6! is the best
21st January 2008, 08:11pm
#12
by kamagaral
quezon city Philippines
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How about 1. R X e3.  If 1...f X e3 then 2. Q X c2. and if 2... Rf7 then  3. Qc8 is mateFrown
21st January 2008, 08:13pm
#13
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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30. Rxe3 Qf2+ and Qxg2# next
22nd January 2008, 06:36am
#14
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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Member Points: 3075
30. b6 Rxg2+ 31. Kh1 Rg7 32. Qxe3 and the f-pawn is pinned because fxe3 Rxf8+ Qd8 Rxd8#
22nd January 2008, 06:52am
#15
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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Member Points: 3075
benws, thanks that's  been suggested twice before. Also, it seems that 30. b6 is an improvement on Qxe3 because of the immediate threat of bxa6+ and the fact that the b6 pawn creates a back rank mate threat.
22nd January 2008, 08:55am
#16
by ali-scorpion
Iran
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Member Points: 56
I think R X e3 is very good and strong move.
22nd January 2008, 09:21am
#17
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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Member Points: 3075
ali-scorpion wrote: I think R X e3 is very good and strong move.

 Then you haven't been paying attention. It was already suggested and it gets checkmated immediately by Qf2+ followed by Qxg2#.


22nd January 2008, 09:57am
#18
by Ilya1975
IS Israel
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 31
Qe3!
22nd January 2008, 10:01am
#19
by Metris
Notodden Norway
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 60

I think b6 is the strongest move here. It puts a lot of pressure against the king, and on incorrect defence, it opens up the a-file, eventually leading to a beautiful mate with a knight, a pawn and a queen after a rook sacrifice =)

 

 

~Amanda 


22nd January 2008, 11:17am
#20
by Sunshiny
United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 780

30. b6 loses to 30. ... Rxg2+.

31. Kh1 a6

32. Qxe3 Rg3 threatening mate. (33. Rxg3? fxe3)

 

Best is:

30. Qxe3 fxe3

31. Rxf8+ Kc7 

32. Rc8+ Kxd6

33. Rxc2 leaving two rooks, pawns, and king vs. queen, pawns, and king. 

  


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