Is Q=R+R=B+B+N and i mean is chess a calculation

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17th December 2008, 11:56pm
#1
by dkischess
India
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18th December 2008, 12:20am
#2
by bugs111
negeri sembilan Malaysia
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 156

hmm..it basically a number of importance for each pieces..when u have lesser weapon u have less strategy to attack...

so two rooks is basically better than a queen...coz one rook worth 5 and a queen is 9

two bishops or 2 knights is jz 6 so they are better than one rook...

18th December 2008, 12:45am
#3
by davej123
Chorley, UK United Kingdom
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 108

There really is no hard and fast rule though the points system (Q=9, R=5, N/B=3, P=1) is a good but very rough way to work things out. All of the rules are subject to what the position is like though. A queen can be better than 2 rooks if she is active and the rooks aren't able to work together. A Bishop or knight on their own can be better than a rook in certain positions. In an open position often a bishop is better than a knight especially if you have a pair of them. In closed positions knights can be better than bishops as they can infiltrate the enemy ranks on both white and black squares unlike the bishop.

18th December 2008, 09:18pm
#4
by NM tonydal
United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4852

That's a heckuvan endgame at the end! After 22 Rxa8 Bf4 I honestly don't know what's going on exactly (one reason these kind of things are so hard to judge is because they so rarely happen in practice). White's queenside pawns are all easily harassed by the Black pieces; on the other hand, White does have an extra pawn on the kingside, and Black's king could conceivably get into a bit of trouble if those pawns are allowed to advance a ways.

White does have a (slight) advantage in material, and his best practical bet might be to sac the exchange for the d6 pawn, thus eliminating one of the bishops. With R + 2 vs B + Kt, a passed pawn and another possibly on the way on the kingside, he might get good chances. (Hard to tell for sure though.)

19th December 2008, 09:03am
#5
by Maat
Iceland
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 119

chess is about good moves and good positions.

you can't say that a knight that is about to checkmate on nextmove worths less than a undeveloped rook that delivers no threat at all.

if you would have the opportunity to capture the rook(5) or the knight(3) , wich would you attack ?
certainly not the rook only cause it worths more points than the knight

20th December 2008, 12:46am
#6
by dkischess
India
Member Since: May 2008
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And this type of game shows that you can calmly exchange Q for a few minor or major piece  without any fear to lost the  game

20th December 2008, 11:24am
#7
by Maat
Iceland
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 119

it is alway possible, yea.
If you have a better position at the end of the process, than you can trade off.

it just depends on your position.

tacticly, you can exchange anything for anything if it allows you to have a strong position.

20th December 2008, 11:36am
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by ih8sens
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
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At least in the positions I often achieve (semi-closed, highly tactical)... a queen is far stronger than 2 rooks.  On the other hand ... in less 'pawny' positions, the rooks are better.  passed pawns also help rooks immensely.  It's all variable... there are times where two pieces are worth a rook and a pawn... but usually the pieces are considerably more valuable.

23rd December 2008, 03:55pm
#9
by Cristiano87
Chieti Italy
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 18

I prefer Black, i think he has a little advantage and he can play to win while White must play to draw.

23rd December 2008, 04:09pm
#10
by Maat
Iceland
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 119
ih8sens wrote:

At least in the positions I often achieve (semi-closed, highly tactical)... a queen is far stronger than 2 rooks.  On the other hand ... in less 'pawny' positions, the rooks are better.  passed pawns also help rooks immensely.  It's all variable... there are times where two pieces are worth a rook and a pawn... but usually the pieces are considerably more valuable.


in fact - chess is a very variable game haha
I never tought of this word to describe chess in 1 word.

I've alway tought about Logic, Complicated, War

27th August 2009, 11:43am
#11
by dkischess
India
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28th August 2009, 02:50am
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by dkischess
India
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revoked

 

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