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Mainline_Novelty vs stubborn_d0nkey : WITH KIBITZERS!!


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #101

    jetfighter13

    stupid but interesting

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #102

    stubborn_d0nkey

    You want to give me knight? I have no problem with that :)

    d3 doesn't seem like a bad move at all, perhaps not the best but it's definitely quite solid

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #103

    tarikhk

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #104

    tarikhk

    The more I look at this position, the more I see that black has the edge, if only miniscule. For the record, each move by white is followed by Bxc3.

    d3- solid

    d4- active

    qe2-is bad i think- a tactical probe that fails. It prevents Nxd5 for one or two moves maybe, but after 0-0 black is fine. Black can even consider


    This looks dangerous for white.

    Bb3- this is also bad. Black will play 0-0, Re1 and win the e pawn with no threat to the f7 pawn. and lay claim to the e-file. Bg4 will add more pressure to the position.

    In every line black has a miniscule edge.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #105

    jetfighter13

    activity is king. d4

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #106

    Mainline_Novelty

    8.d4. Let's do it.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #107

    jetfighter13

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #108

    stubborn_d0nkey

    Did I overlook something or did you overlook Bxb7 ? I cant see much past Bxc3,perhaps castling but i can always do that afterward

    Anyways, I think Bb3 might have been better for white. Maybe even the simple a3. Though, like its been mentioned d4 gives more immediate activity so maybe white has some move somewhere

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #109

    stubborn_d0nkey

    I'm pretty sure I'm gonna take the knight unless somebody comes up with something else that looks good in, oh..., lets say the next 10 hours. Since bxc3 is pretty much white's only reply I'd like to see suggestions for what to do after that. The two options that look best to me are capturing the bishop and castling. I'm probably leaning towards castling. 8... Bxc3 9. bxc3 O-O 10. Bxf4

    10... Nxd5 11. exd5 Qxd5 is a possibility that I think is likely

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #110

    jetfighter13

    yeah oops, I overlooked it in calculating, thought the B was still on c8 lol

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #111

    John_D

    I think the moves can be simply as written earlier, B x c3 b x c3 then N x d5 e x d5 and Q x d5, he can not take the pawn with the bishop because this will cost him his pawn. see diagram.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #112

    stubborn_d0nkey

    My move is Bxc3

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #113

    Mainline_Novelty

    9.bc obvs

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #114

    stubborn_d0nkey

    9...0-0

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #115

    jetfighter13

    Kg1 looks interesting

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #116

    Mainline_Novelty

    So, I'd just like to say, for the lower rated players out there, 10.Bxf4 Nxd5 11.ed Qxd5 12.Bxc7?? is not an option because of 12...Qc4+.

    10.Kg1 actually does look pretty interseting, with the idea of g3...any other thoughts?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #117

    jetfighter13

    nope, I liked it because of g3 and the start of added preasure on the kingside

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #118

    Mainline_Novelty

    Wait a minute, was there a reason Black couldn't have played ...c6 last turn?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #119

    jetfighter13

    No, also Bxf4 looks safe

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #120

    stubborn_d0nkey

    I dont think c6 was a good move. It would make taking the e pawn unpleasant due to the pin to the queen, and anyways what would it accomplish? Getting your bishop out of the way and allowing my bishop to move(no more guarding the b pawn). Yes, that would happen but my bishop wont be guarding that pawn for very long (since you are either going to lose the bishop or move it) but it would also take the c6 spot away from my knight and make my further dvelopment of my pieces more limited (option wise). Also it would cimmit my pawns to the light squares for a while, the same color as my remaining bishop.

     

    All in all, not a good move.

     

     

    BTW I am amazed that I am able to give so much reasoning as to why c6 is a bad move, I never see this stuff in a game, nor did I see all of it when disregarding C's in this game


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